Moshiach (Messiah) and the Future Redemption

Brenda, The four horsemen that you mention, as far as I know, is in Chazon Yohannan only. It is written by a Jew that was one of the 12 talmidim of Yeshua of Nazareth, believed by a number of Jews to be Moshiach. They were awaiting the return of Moshiach. The horsemen were in a vision (chazon) about the horrible future events that would precede that return of the Prince of Peace. There are many events that seemed to be that, but were just "Chavelei haMoshiach" (birthpangs of Moshiach's coming) - just like a woman's birthpangs, they grow stronger and more frequent as the actual event arrives. You ask when? Moshiach will come, although he seems to tarry, and we all must be prepared as his allies when he does. Reply

The king is a lawgiver and giver of justice and worship god our god is one obey his commandments the voice of the king is sacred Reply

I think that's a blasphemic thing to say. There is only one God. Excuse me if I misunderstood your words, I have had brain injury. Reply

Belinda,
Thanks for pointing out the blasphemy. "Hear o Israel ..." and also "In that day, HaShem alone will be exalted." Reply

This is so true Reply

Well said Reply

Very reasonable idea. Not based on despair of long ago people unaware of science. Reply

For some individuals, life seems pretty good as it is, but for many others, it's a real hell. Reply

As mentioned, there are already checks and balances in place, and thankfully an active community that will be able to discuss, determine and encourage us appropriately, though hopefully it will be clear enough to us all that you will be able to make your own mind up, and, moving on through the generations, is that not part of the whole point of a messiah?
for the record, I think that your question does not make much sense James; if 'a' Moshiac were to be indistinguishable (even to the wise tribes) then presumably he would not be The Moshiac!

and, as you wish, the sooner it may happen the better, for although we may not all gain complete realisation and unbreakable happiness immediately, the opportunities for that to happen will certainly increase!
thanks Reply

The answers are all in The Bible 😊 Reply

Much goes without saying, but Maimonides makes it clear Mashiach will be recognized for his accomplishments. After the fact, in other words.

He makes no mention of Mashiach first having to pass a Halachic test before men purporting to have the authority to judge him ‘fit to Mashiach’. Reply

Are there different rules for intelligent life in other galaxies? Reply

I believe he will be Sinless, and all knowledgeable, and he will have God with him as Moses did said in Deuteronomy 18:18. Not man can say any of that about his or herself... Reply

Thanks. Is he like a super human or perfectly holy? Reply

Neither — and in this, Jews are much more realistic than those expecting his descent from the clouds, or that he will arrive cloaked in robes and speaking in perfect pie-a-tease. Reply

the following is a quote from maimonides:
"We may not appoint a woman as king. When describing the monarchy, the Torah employs the male form of the word king and not the female."
being that moshiach is a king, he must be male. Reply

There's supposed to be 4 I think. Reply

What about possibility that gender will disappear as result of evolution? Reply

Without gender, how can there be reproduction? Any species that does reproduce will go extinct. Neither natural selection nor divinely caused change favor making humans or any other species unable to reproduce. Reply

we're not waiting that long!

are you on facebook? Reply

bh

the purpose of the jewish people is to teach the 7 universal mitzvos given to noach. the entire world should be encouraged to observe and carry out.

be well and mazel tov Reply

The next question would be, what is considered moral and what is not?
What is morality and who in the end has the last say in defining it?
By whose standards does this morality and ethics come from? Everything has a source.
People quote G-D as the source for opposite ideas of morality and ethics. Both camps with views that are in oppositon to one another, and both think they are right! Both think their ideas are right before G-D, that He agrees with them!
I don't give answers. I just ask questions. I'm Jewish! Reply

Many religions proclaim to have those two codes, however its practitioners seem to in many cases not up for the personal sacrifices it requires. Even our Masonic Order has those precepts , and we are not a religion. Reply

beautiful Reply

Isn't the purpose of the Jewish people to teach/reveal All of the statutes and ordinances as per;

Deu 4:6 Observe therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples, that, ""when they hear all these statutes"", shall say: 'Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.' Reply

the entire world should be. Reply

Bh. What is moral is all addressed in Torah that God gave moshe our teacher keep going to synagogue and keep asking questions Reply

G-d ordains everything, it seems. Reply

Maimonides never mentions G-d having to remind, or exhort, Mashiach to go to synagogue—
nor a Halachic file being kept
on him ‘somewhere’ —nor record of G-d making him gp to synagogue. Reply

In many Nordic countries "once must be a christian" to join the masonic lodge(!), but it is most common among many persons to just join regardless of that because the "low grades" are all on "old testament ground"! Would you regard it be inproper to do that or not? as otherways once can not join this brotherhood. Reply

regarding precepts BH. You are right: without being tied to a deity, an organization is not a religion. And the difference between other religions and Judaism is the Presence of the G-d of the Hebrews. Regardless of how moral or ethical is a belief system or society, and however admirable it is, The G-d of the Hebrews does indeed exist and will indeed confront peoples and nations that do not acknowledge Him. Reply

Masons are most certainly a religion Reply

You might try the Hebrew Order of David, a masonic lodge specifically for Jewish men. Reply

If you are a Mason then you do not know Christianity and being a Mason and a Christian is totally contradictory. One can say that they are Christian because they are raised in a family of Christian traditions . It is shocking how many people who think they are Christian, do not even know anything except the superficial first layer. Reply

As the son of a Mason, a most decent man who died (alone) of a heart attack in Oklahoma at age 59 11 months into a Boeing work assignment, and being myself not a Mason, but a son who at the very least inherited a small library of published (and therefore publicly available) Masonic texts and encyclopedias, it falls on me to refute your assertion that a Mason ‘do[es] not know Christianity’ and that ‘being a Mason and a Christian is totally contradictory.’

And so In defense of my late father, a strong proponent of free thinking and religious freedom, it falls to me not only to call attention to your ignorance, but to assert that your comment is a falsehood born of slander and superficial hearsay with about as much goodwill behind it, and fact to back it up, as the Blood Libel. Reply

The Ultimate judge is not us. Reply

Eh, David, you are not a Mason. Continue to love your father, while admitting he was a man and was not perfect. As someone familiar with masonry and having family members who rose to high ranks, I must assert that masonry is not only anti-Jewish and anti-Christian, but anti-Creator, which means it is evil. It begins by encouraging participation in religion and honoring religious books, but it finishes in nothing short of witchcraft and a belittling of the sovereignty of G-d.
What is published is not what is unpublished.
In addition to this, we are to grow with knowledge of G-d, not repeat the well- intentioned mistakes of our fathers. Reply

Cultue and religion Add a comment...Dear Mr. Levin,


First congratulations on the success of your wonderful children who clearly have achieved great things in their young lives, no doubt, your love and their exposure to Torah and Mitzvahs has been a great influence on them and the successes they enjoy. As to your question, I point to the fact that the other nations were offered the Torah first before the Jews were offered it, but the other nations rejected it, in a like matter they too reject the revealed truths regarding the profundity of G-ds Torah. This may seem like an over- simplification of your question, however, I believe it is right on point.

Respectfully,

David Lobell Reply

As a Christian I totally agree Gd made us Gd knows how we are made and what works and what doesn't . Reply

Because men and women sometimes question G-D and can't understand why but you just have to say G-D is smarter like a child to their parents and accept G-D S way. Reply

Variety is the spice of life. Maybe he delights in the various ways people express their love. Reply

Na na na! Not true. The Torah was not offered to other nations first. The Torah states itself that G-D chose the Jewish people because they were the smallest nation. His purpose was to give this smallest nation the Jews The Torah.

If you or I were G-D we would probably choose the largest nation to give the Torah to. But G-D did the exact opposite. Food for thought! Reply

What other nations were offered the Torah before the Jews? Is there historical evidence of this? Reply

Why the Jewish people were chosen we don't know but there must be a reason. It is always good to start with a small group on such a huge topic. Once the small group gets it, then they can spread the word. Reply

God chose small people to work and show His mighty power through them. To be a light to all other nations. So that they may Know that God is with them. And that in this, they may and should believe in God and his power.. Reply

You could argue that the "problem" is choice. People were created with the ability, and desire, to make their own choice. Peple do not always choose paths without influences such as pride/ego, hubris, etc. Why are there so many ways to follow G-d's teachings? Variety of views perhaps? Or just letting people make their own choices in the belief we will all reach a similar understanding. You cannot direct human beings to all believe exactly the samethings in exactly the same ways or why give us the freedom to choose?

If we are all G-d's children, and you have ever raised children, haven't you seen the benefits of teaching them the good & bad and having them make their own choices? As long as you leave the way open for them to come to you and ask all of the questions necessary to make those good choices (not just your choices), then you have been a wise parent. Are we, as adults, still not full of questions? We still ask them, don't we? Reply

Perhaps G-D looks at our motives behind the choices and also our intentions at the time of the choice. Reply

Re: culture and religion HaShem gave us free will to choose Good over Evil. If we could only choose Good, there would be no triumph in choosing it. Reply

Yes, the choice is the most difficult thing because it gives us the responsibility for the choice. Therefore we must think. People who just do the actions and the motions because they "have" to do it are just followers like sheep .Not that sheep are bad, far from that but just like you can follow good people you can also be persuaded to follow bad ones. There are intelligent manipulators in this world and if you have not learned how to think for yourself, you fall into their trap. Reply

Exactly angels have no choice but to do exactly what Hashem created them to do just like robots, but Hashem did not make robots he made Humans so we can choose evil, but should come to choose good. Reply

Those who do good or avoid doing evil because they are told to may be doing it for that reason, but those who follow it for that reason are still acting correctly. That helps keep order in society and prevents many evil acts from happening. That is a good result. All people have impulses to do things that are wrong or not do acts that are good. Restraining ourselves in that way makes for a better world. Reply

I have heard this many times (about angels having no choice); but what about the King of Tyre in Yechezkel 28?
13 In Eden, the garden of Gd you were; every precious stone was [set in] your covering; ruby, topaz, diamond, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, carbuncle, and crystal and gold; the work of your drums and your orifices is in you; on the day of your creation they were established.
14You were a cherub of great measure, that covers, and I gave that to you; you were on the mount of the sanctuary of Gd: you walked among stones of fire.
15You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created until wrongdoing was found in you.
This does not sound like a robot. Reply