Creation and Evolution: The Rabbi and the Scientist
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Great teaching i'm so glad that there is some good solid teaching like this around that makes it clear that the issue is not science but rather one philosophy/worldview vs another, the Torah mindset vs the naturalistic one. thank you so much Reply
Evolution and God
Scientific evidence supports the idea that evolution has occurred; cosmic evolution
after the "Big Bang" which created the Universe 13.8 billion years ago, and
biological evolution since the formation of the Earth 4.6 billion years ago. But
science can not explain WHY the "Big Bang" happened, nor can it explain why
certain physical constants have values that allow star formation, planet formation,
and the complex chemistry which drives life. If these constants differed from their
present value only by a small percent, stars--or indeed, atoms--could not form,
and there would be no planets and no life. This is known as the Anthropic
Principle, and this is where the idea of a Cosmic Censor, a.k.a. God comes in.
Someone or Something had to set these constants to the right value for life to
evolve. Evolution definitely did occur--but Someone or Something had to
"program" the Big Bang to allow it to occur.
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Rabbi & Scientist on Evolution
Why does Withheld say that Dov isn't a scientist? What eggs analogy is Anonomys talking about?
I enjoyed this recording, but there were problems. Dov describes evolution by means of natural selection well and rightly calls Darwin a genius. However, he said he doesn't like evolution and doesn't explain why.
Kaplan is a good speaker but makes some glaring blunders. While he acknowledges the importance of metaphor he still insists on too literal a reading of Genesis which he uses to dispute biology. He misunderstands the reason why Jews come in many colors; he overestimates the roles of diet and climate (short-term) and underestimates the roles of conversions and intermarriage in Jewish history. The long-term role of climate is important in explaining why humans come in many colors; the irony is that the explanation is evolutionary. He acknowledges that Darwin's theory is beautiful, but he misses that point that its beauty goes hand in hand with the fact that it makes sense.
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Dont go to hard on rabbi Kaplan
Give the Rabbi a break with the eggs analogy. He was trying to tell a joke when he said he cant cook eggs and that's why he reads books instead. I am sure the rabbi does know how to cook but he may not know how to learn our books. In a book called Feeding Among the lillies, there is an essay on differant scholars that were effected by the enlightenment movement, Martin Buber and several more included. The author tells a chasidishe story told by a chassid and then tells the same story as told by Buber. After a carfeul analasyis, the author shows how Buber changed some nuances of the story to make the chasidish way of life more distant from the reader.
Notwithstadning you will probably find more useful information in a book called Mind Over Matter.
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The Great Debate Rabbi Kaplan admits clearly that the theory of evolution poses no problem to belief in the Torah. That is the most sensible thing he said. Reply
Respect Maybe you disagree with their ideas and opinions, but a little derech eretz (manners) is in order. Reply
Creation and Evolution Doctor Dumbroff is not much of an evolutionary scientist based on the facts he cited, and the Rabbi grossly twists scientific principles to fit his ideas. I agree with the first commentor. In the end, listening to this was a huge waste of my time. Reply
Creation and Evolution Dr. Dumbroff is NOT a scientist and Rabbi Kaplan can't confront reality. Reply
Aside all the arguments, that don't matter too much about our real hard question about the origin of life. In the end, it matters not to anyone or change facts, whether the speakers have talent, knowledge, or none. Nor will anything change because everyone in the universe chooses to deny the truth about our existence. Bottom line that everyone agrees upon, rabbis, scientists, atheists, antagonist, egoist etc.. is that science has continued to reveal the amazing complexity of matter as it exists, and with more scientific and technological advancement, the intricacy and design continues to awe every thinking person. Even more so, now with the discovery of quantum science, all matter, as we have understood them to be up until this discovery, are being threatened to be proven scientifically impossible! So the biggest question is "what name do we give the underlying, unifying theory? Should we call it nature? Universe? Evolution? All these theories are pointing to something much bigger.