HOME | CONTACT US | DONATE LoginLOGIN Ask the RabbiASK THE RABBI
Chabad.org
 
Chabad.org » Women » Dear Rachel » Dating » Conversion and Marriage
Dear Rachel


Share thisPost a CommentPrintSend this page to a friendSubscribe
7 Comments Posted


Conversion and Marriage


Dear Rachel,

I am going through the process of an Orthodox conversion in order to marry the man I love whose family wishes us to be married in an Orthodox synagogue. However, I have found that the process is something I would have eventually done on my own. I have always gravitated towards this life prior to meeting him. I was born into a non-religious home. Now I find myself living a wonderful observant life, but my fiancé is not interested in living in such a way. He really only wanted me to go through this process for the wedding. How do I reconcile this separation? While we do not live together yet, he has already expressed concerns about my desire to adhere to kashrut (Jewish dietary laws), family purity and sabbath laws. I am very confused and concerned about the future of our marriage. I should mention we are both making large sacrifices to be with each other, he is even moving to another country to be with me and we do love each other very very much.

Thank You,
K.S.B.



Dear K.S.B.,

Thank you so much for sending in your question. You should know that what you are describing is actually a fairly common situation. I have heard a number of stories where the partner converting is actually the one who desires to adhere to the laws, whereas the Jewish partner doesn't.

There are two different issues here that are actually very connected as well. The first is the concept of conversion within Judaism, whereas the second issue is how you relate to your boyfriend and possibly husband.

In terms of conversion, a person is only allowed to convert and is considered a true convert, when there is no ulterior motive and it is purely for the sake and desire of living a Torah observant life. This is why an Orthodox conversion is so difficult to obtain and why the potential convert is often pushed away. The goal is to ascertain that the person truly desires this way of life and will pursue it regardless of the difficulty.

From what you describe, it sounds like this is your situation. While perhaps your boyfriend was the actual push to make you think about conversion, it appears that your motives and reasons are because of your attachment to Judaism and the way of life and not solely based on appeasing your boyfriend or his family.

In the Torah a convert is called a "ger who is m'gaer" meaning a convert who converted. The question is asked as to why it doesn't say "a non Jew who converted" but a convert who converts? The explanation given is that a Jew is one who was born to a Jewish mother, and therefore inherits that Jewish soul. A true convert has the greatest test of all, since that person was also born with a Jewish soul, but was born to a non-Jewish mother. Therefore, a true convert was born with this Jewish element and potential, and simply needed to undergo conversion to reveal it.

So, basically, if you are to convert for the sole sake of your boyfriend, with no intention or desire to live a Jewish life, in actuality your conversion is problematic and possibly invalid. Therefore, from the aspect of Jewish law, you have no option other than to mean what you say and to convert if you feel that you truly have that Jewish soul and want to live a Jewish life.

The second issue is broader in a way, and has to do with what happens when two people want very different things in life. From what you describe, it appears that the things you value, find attractive, would want to observe, keep, include and develop in your life, vary incredibly from your boyfriend. Perhaps the problem is that he hasn't had the opportunity to learn and find the beauty in Judaism himself and therefore isn't attached. But this is a real serious issue.

As I am sure you know, while love is vital in a relationship, it is not enough to make a relationship thrive and grow. What is essential to a relationship is a common vision and goal since even though we change as time passes, we need to know that we are headed in the same direction. This is going to be all the more relevant if you have children, as then it is not just about what each of you choose to do as individuals, but how you want to raise your family and how your home will be.

I think that it is vital that the two of you really speak about how you see your futures, what is important to you and why. It is not merely about whether or not you keep a kosher kitchen, but why this is something you would want to do. What is it about keeping kosher that you find beautiful? Because ultimately, when it comes to these fundamental aspects of your life, you need to have a mutual respect and understanding. Granted, there are couples that this happens to once they are married and have to work through these differences, but that is very different than entering a marriage with such a gap.

I think you also need to really ask yourself if you would continue with the learning and the conversion if it were not for him. If you were to breakup, would you still want to convert? Because if the answer is no, then you need to be honest with yourself and recognize that being deceiving about something like this is not a great way to start a marriage. Even if your boyfriend doesn't care, you have to recognize that what is the sake of "converting" if it is all based on falsehood.

And if you would convert regardless of your relationship, then your boyfriend and his family need to be aware of your interest in Judaism and understand that this is not a game, but a part of you and a part of you that you want acknowledged and celebrated in your life.

I wish you much hatzlacha (luck) in this journey.


Share thisPost a CommentPrintSend this page to a friendSubscribe
7 Comments Posted

The content on this page is copyrighted by the author, publisher and/or Chabad.org, and is produced by Chabad.org. If you enjoyed this article, we encourage you to distribute it further, provided that you comply with the copyright policy.
 

7 Comments Posted  |  Post A Comment
Reader Comments
Latest Comments:
Posted: Jan 19, 2008
I agree - postpone the wedding.
I had an Orthodox conversion 10 years after we married. He was raised secular Reform. While he has tried, he isn't enthusiastic about Torah and he has never 'cleaved to his wife', defended me to his family... It is a huge strain. My advice is, if you would go through with the conversation even without the intention of marrying your boyfriend, then put off the wedding and live as a single, Orthodox woman for at least a year, keeping mtizvot and observing Shabbat and holidays within a community. Learn from a Rebbetizin how to keep a shomer mitzvot (Torah observant) home. (We don't have a mother to help us with that, and it doesn't sound like your husband will be too enthusiastic about helping you!) I know as an O convert that this irresistable flame in me to live as a Torah Jew is strained every day by my unenthusiastic husband. It shouldn't be like this! I wish for MORE for you!! I wish for you a husband who will revel in creating Shalom Bayis (peace in the home) with you and treat you like the Aishes Chayil (woman of valor) you no doubt will be.
Posted By chana

Posted: Jan 14, 2008
Give it a chance
I am a woman converting Orthodox, initially AGAINST the wishes of my reform husband (we married already, he and the family were not even slightly concerned that i was not born Jewish). From my experience, I can say give it a chance.... More time, more experience of the joyful aspects of Judaism that not everyone has had a chance to appreciate even if they are brought up with a Jewish identity.

My husband is now happy to keep a Kosher home (though we are still on training wheels for that one), joins me at shul regularly enough, is starting to rub the rust off his Hebrew.

Sometimes conversion gets two for one -- the non observant can get drawn back in to something they would not have done on their own, given the right approach.

Good luck. It is a good test of how your relationship addresses differences in values or priorities, which will come up through other areas of life anyway, regardless of how compatible you are.

Posted By Clare, Sydney, Australia

Posted: May 2, 2007
Conversion and Marriage
Marriage is based on sharing dreams and wanting the same kind of life. It sounds like you only converted for your boyfriend. Even though he's moving to another country to be with you, does his family know he doesn't want to live an observant life?

Obviously, there's a real conflict here. You can't force him to give in to yours and his family's expectations. You may be happy living the Orthodox Jewish Life, but you have NO future with this man. No matter how much the two of you love each other, you can't be happily married to anyone who won't share the kind of lifestyle you want.

You also need to consider what kind of home to live in, where to live, children, pets, and whether to stay home or work. No matter what decisions you make with your life, you need a husband who will be as supportive as possible. You won't have that with this man you want to marry - you'll have to look elsewhere.
Posted By Lisa, Providence, RI



Post a Comment
Subject:
Comment:
  1000 Characters Remaining
Name*:
Email*:
City:   State/Country:
* indicates a required field
 


Dating
Engaged to a Mama's Boy
A Bad Match
Ending an Engagement
Do I Have a Soulmate?
Bored with Mr. Nice Guy
Immature Boyfriend
Parents Don't Approve
Lack of Attraction
Wealthy Boyfriend
Conversion and Marriage
Broken-Hearted

Related
  More articles on
Marriage (725 articles)
Conversion (to Judaism); Convert (18 articles)