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Universal Mission

20 Menachem Av, 5746 · August 25, 1986



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Posted: Sep 2, 2008
To Mr. Karp
So if you are not against teaching people not to steal and not to murder, which of the Noahide Laws are you objecting to? The prohibition against eating the flesh of an animal while it is still alive? How is such a rule racist? It includes no provisos for one's lineage. We say that the Laws apply to the descendants of Noah because all of humanity descends from him. It means that the Laws apply to everyone equally.

Did you watch the video? The point was that we should not think that G-d only requires Jews to be moral people because the Torah was given only to us. Rather everyone, Jew or not, must be moral, and we must encourage each other in our common task of making a more civilized world. Definitely not racist or offensive.
Posted By Baruch, S. Paul, MN

Posted: Sep 2, 2008
To Baruch
I'm suggesting no such thing:

It's more then fine to encourage others not to steal and commit murder.

I don't believe the concept of Bnei Noach and the 'noahide laws' is very effective in encouraging better behaviour from the Gentiles.

I think this concept is unnecessarily offensive to Gentiles (to the point of racism), and I suspect it is not actually a mitzvah for you to preach this to non-Jews.

Take the 'noahide law' against tearing a limb off a live animal:

Do you as a Jew want to imply that you have to teach that to a Gentile just because their mother is not of the same race (Hebrew) as yours?

That is racist and offensive, and doesn't truly represent why Torah was entrusted to you, methinks.
Posted By Thomas Karp, New Haven, Ct.

Posted: Aug 30, 2008
Just Wrong
So, Mr. Karp, you suggest that it is wrong to encourage Non-Jews to commit to such basic moral principles as not stealing and not murdering. That letting these things continue unabated is the better path to a civilized world.

The fact that the Torah doesn't specifically mention that Moshe and Hillel preach the Noahide laws is no indication that they did not do so. That just wasn't the story that it was telling. It was teaching a different lesson. Why not? Because that lesson was already taught much earlier with Avraham. He brought the passers-by into his tent and taught them of G-d and morality. Indeed, the Talmud says that his life marked the end of the epoch of chaos in the world, because he spent his life teaching the world to be civilized.
Posted By Baruch, S. Paul, MN



 

 
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