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When were the angels created?

When were the angels created?

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In the Midrash Rabbah we find two opinions on this matter:

Rabbi Yochanan taught that angels were created on the second day of Creation. He sees this reflected in Psalms 104 where we read in the third verse: "Who roofs His upper chambers with water," and in the following verse, "He makes His angels spirits…" He therefore concluded that the angels where created on the second day, the same day that G‑d divided the waters, creating an "upper chambers with water."

In addition, in the description of the story of creation (Genesis 1), there’s an interesting lingual anomaly. After the first day of creation the Torah says, "It was evening it was day, one day." After the succeeding days, "It was evening it was day, the second day... third day... fourth day... etc." Following this sequence, after the first day the Torah should logically have said, "It was evening it was day, the first day"? Why "one day"? From this our Sages infer that the first day was a day of "oneness," when G‑d was one and alone, for all His assistants, the angels, were created on the following day.

Rabbi Chanina, however, taught that angels were created on the fifth day. He points out that the words used in Genesis to describe the creation of the birds (on the fifth day) are similar to the words used by Isaiah to describe the angels (in Isaiah 6).

(Since all opinions expressed in the Torah are correct, as they are all "the words of the living G‑d," perhaps it can be said that certain groups of angels were created on the second day of creation, and others on the fifth.)

I hope that I've been helpful today.

Yours truly,

Rabbi Menachem Posner


Sources:
Midrash Rabbah Genesis 1:3; 3:8.
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July 19, 2011
So, when G-d said "WE", he meant
Himself and the angels?
Karen Joyce Chaya Fradle Kleinman Bell
Riverside, CA, USA
jewishriverside.com
October 21, 2009
if "son" is considered being one with his father, then all angels are one with G-d. indeed, an angel is but an attribute of G-d put in a human form for us to be able to see, as no one can see G-d and live. an angel is an image of God. Adam was created in the image of G-d. the ANGEL of the Lord appeared to Moses as a burning bush, and the biggest clue is this:
judges 13:21 When the angel of the LORD did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the LORD.
22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We have seen G-d!"
therefore the angels are none but G-d himself appearing in a form we can perceive with our senses. thus the angels can be considered either having always existed as a part of G-d's oneness or as created as needed for communication. not on the 2d day or on the 5th but every moment in possibility. as so we are angels in training, as we are to merge into Oneness of G-d as the angels are.
fab
ft lauderdale, fl
September 11, 2009
Two types of angels
The temporary angels were created on the 2nd day. You create these with your emotions everyday.

The permanent angels were created on the 5th day (Michael, Metatron etc).
Ryan Abravanel
September 5, 2009
Curious
Were Angels created or spoke into existence? Could God creat something that has no beginning or end. What day would not matter if he created them to have always been.
Rocky Stone
Tulsa, OK
September 2, 2009
Creation of Angels
According to Job 38:4-7 it seems that the angels were created before G-d created the heavens and the earth (Gen 1:1). They were already present when G-d laid the foundations of the earth (read Job 38:4-7).

Job 38:4 Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding.
Job 38:5 Who set its measurements, if you know? Or who stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Upon what were its foundations sunk? Or who laid its corner-stone,
Job 38:7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of Elohim shouted for joy?
- sons of G-d = b’nai Elohim = Angels
- By divine creation only; Adam, and the angels are considered sons of G-d.
- see Job1: 6, 2:1, 38:7
- see Daniel 3:25 son of Elah (bar Elohim)
- see sons of the mighty (ben El) Psalms 89:6
Yohanan ben Perez
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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