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Is the Lord’s Prayer Non-Denominational?

Is the Lord’s Prayer Non-Denominational?



For years, we have been closing Alcoholics Anonymous meetings with the Lord’s Prayer, as do many other groups. We sometimes have Jewish people attending, and I had been taught this was a universal prayer. Lately, by request, we have begun to consider closing with something else. What do you think?



It’s true that the Lord’s Prayer fits equally across all the Abrahamic traditions. It is similar in many ways to prayers that were popular among pious Jews in Roman times, including the kaddish prayer, and reflects traditional Jewish values. You may wish to read more on this in the relevant article in the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Nevertheless, Jews do not say this prayer. If a Jew attends an AA meeting where it is recited, he does not have to leave, but he should not recite it along with them. The reason is easy to understand: Its source is what is called “The New Testament.” The existence of the Jewish people is predicated on an eternal pact G‑d made with Abraham, and later with his descendants at Mount Sinai. A “New Testament” implies that this pact was somehow annulled. By reciting a prayer from a context that undermines the existential foundation of his people, a Jew feels that he is surrendering his unique identity to the ideology of the majority culture. It seems to me that this runs contrary to the aims and goals of AA, which looks to strengthen each member’s identity as a unique individual, with his own meaning and purpose in life.

Many AA groups and other 12-step societies have a practice of saying the 23rd Psalm, “The L‑rd is my shepherd . . .” The Psalms are revered by Jews, Christians and Muslims, and this one in particular relates closely to the theme of AA.

Please let me know if this helps,
Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

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Ariel R Goldstein Brooklyn, NY November 29, 2017

Rabbi, I have a non-frum relative who wants to know what tefila we have that is similar. Please advise. Thank you. Tzake l'mitzvot Reply

Sheri Mission Viejo August 3, 2017

While the Lord's Prayer has been a tradition within AA, it's not out of spite for other religions. Way back when, Jewish alcoholics were pretty rare besides, Jews and Christians didn't mix as much socially as they do today. So I don't believe malice was involved as it was founded by a bunch of drunks, not sophisticated theologians.
AA was first started within a more Evangelical Christian tradition, but moved away from that to reach out to those who were agnostic. I used to hear a saying... if you want to stop drinking, go to AA, if you want to save your soul, go to church.
These days, the one who leads the prayer will often choose "The Serenity Prayer" instead.


Michael Shaw Skippack June 30, 2017

Rav Freeman -- There is a problem with your argument here. If the source of the Lord's Prayer is the sacred writing of the Christians (I don't use the expression New Testament), they got it from us. There are words in this prayer that are directly from Jewish sacred texts. The ultimate source is ours, so I don't see anything wrong with the words of the prayer. They do not contradict any of our beliefs. Reply

Paul Durant Idaho July 8, 2015

Levi But I error not. Reply

levi rapoport brooklyn July 6, 2015

attn paul idaho "our" god ? the god of the new testament is not the G-d of the Bible Reply

Paul Idaho July 2, 2015

Deuteronomy 13 Levi Rapoport: But I go after no other gods. I pray to our God. I thank our God. I know no other gods but our God. Reply

Sharon PA July 2, 2015

what about deuteronomy 13? Reply

levi rapoport brooklyn July 2, 2015

attn paul idaho Deuteronomy 13 Reply

RJ Vermilion Bay April 12, 2015

prayer at meetings Organizations outside the church should remain secular as not everyone worships a diety. Reply

Arik Bucharest April 12, 2015

Psalm 23 David realyy got a major hit with P 23 Reply

Anonymous Akron Ohio March 23, 2015

Recognize All Does this apply to other organizations than AA? References are all to AA and we open our non-AA meetings with the Lords Prayer to which I also object. In a multicultural world, all faiths should be recognized, if any. Reply

RJ ontario December 29, 2014

Prayer is about looking inward, not babbling specific words to a particular deity. Why not encourage the members to have a few moments of silence at the end of the meetings. Those who may wish to say a silent prayer are not offending those who don't. Reply

Benji R. Detroit September 20, 2014

Strongly Disagree I've been sober for over 10 years. Been working the program of Alcoholics Anonymous for 8 1/2 of those. im active in the jewish community, and in my local chabad community. Rabbi Friedman, I generally like your articles but would ask you respectfully to please not speak about things which you know nothing about. AA is non denominational spirituality. There is room for every religious background at the table. Here in Detroit we have a strong jewish recovery community, and i constantly hear jews gripe about having to go to churches for meetings, or about having to hear the lords prayer. The fact is that ALL of us did much more offensive things to our Judaism to use and/or drink. if we all put as much energy into removing our ego and sticking to what the book tells us to do as we spent being sensitive about the christian undertones of the program, we would all be healthier. I say this because by NOT saying the lords prayer in a meeting that says it, is making us different. which we arent! Reply

Skip Cashwell Windso CT August 31, 2017
in response to Benji R. :

Excellent (all caps used for massive concurrence). Some may contend that "authentic"Jewish Alcoholics are/were rare. Maybe it is genetic, I don't know. As a Jew-by Choice (from a WASP heritage), my alcoholism continues to be "cured" one-day at a time since November 1981. PS congratulations on your continuing recovery! Reply

Paul Idaho July 11, 2014

Where in the so-called New Testament is the so-called Old Testament disavowed? Conversely, where, in the Old Testament say that anything written past whatever date the "last word" was transcribed is any subsequent testimonials are void and must be ignored? Perhaps a reflection of my ignorance, I find nothing in the Lord's Prayer that declares it to be solely Christian. Reply

Anonymous Indiana August 11, 2017
in response to Paul:

Deuteronomy 4:2 and 13:1 Reply

Steve December 26, 2013

I am a Jew, sober for over 15 years. The subject of the Lord's Prayer at the end of meetings has always caused me inner turmoil. Getting sober, I built a foundation within myself. I would love to say that my connection to G-d is at the center of that foundation, but in all humility, I cannot say that. My faith is simply not as strong as I wish I could claim it to be. What is at the center of it is that I am, at all times, true to myself. This is crucial for me, since while drinking, I lied to myself repeatedly and became a stranger to myself. To me, that is the one way I know to be truly lost.
At times I have tried to say the Lord's prayer, as a method of surrendering my self-will. I have never felt comfortable. I must choose between feeling uncomfortable saying it, or uncomfortable feeling alienated by not participating with the group. I choose the latter. I take solace that I may inspire courage in newcomer' who feel similarly to me, who may feel pressure to do as others do. Reply

Steve So Fla January 26, 2013

Group conscious The wonderful thing about AA is if you do not like what a group is doing bring it up at the business meeting. If that does not fix your concerns. Start your own group!
My home group does things that offend some old timers..but we are sober, we are strong on the steps and we help others. That is all that is important. Reply

Sharon PA November 17, 2012

lords prayer and steps I've been in and out of Alanon since the 80's & have been struggling with the LP on and off. The program promotes "God of your Understanding" and the LP states God as "our father." Not everyone's God is "their father." In fact, as we all know many non-religious people use the group or even an object as their higher power. Also, the steps refer to God as "him." My higher power is not a "him." If I thought of HP in a masculine sense it would impede my sense of spirituality. I generally leave the room when LP is recited and haven't always felt so comfortable about it. In all the years, I have only seen 3 other people do it. (including someone who simply joined me so I wouldn't feel alone). In recent years the Prayer Books for Reformed Judiasm have changed and presently the words him, he, king etc. are replaced with God, Soverign, etc. Since this changed, I am more comfortable in my worship of Judiasm. I'm attempting to create a parallel between my religion & Alanon. Reply

George Carr Miami, FL October 28, 2012

To Anonymous in Pasadena, CA You phrased it so well! Amen! Reply

Anonymous Pasadena, CA October 27, 2012

As to AA & religion.. B"H
The book which is the basic founding text for the Alcoholics Anonymous program states emphatically, "We realize we know only a little, G-d will disclose more to you and to us. Ask Him each day in your morning meditation, what you can do for the man who is still sick and suffering..." It also has an entire chapter devoted to the subject of G-d or a Higher Power (chptr 4 To The Agnostic). Yet this is still only a beginning for those who are attempting to be freed from addictions to alcohol and otther substances, The AA program is similar to the activities of the lifeguards at the ocean, when some one yells for help the good lifeguard dives in and does not disciminate when saving lives. It is the Primary Purpose of AA (and NA) for the members to stay clean and sober and to help others to achieve sobriety...Period! Prayers? No prayer is worthy to stand before HaShem if it is not from the heart, regardless of the words, or even the language men may use. There is no liturgy in AA. Reply

George Carr Miami, FL October 14, 2012

The Lord's Prayer The argument that the Lord's Prayer is not a Jewish prayer, and reciting it in AA meetings go really against the AA prinicples of not being associated with any religion. This is why when N.A. was founded (about 20 years after AA foundation) they started praying the "Serenity Prayer", which was more widely accepted. Reply

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