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What do Agnostics Believe?

What do Agnostics Believe?

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Question:

I started questioning G-d around the time of my Bar Mitzvah. I identified as an agnostic shortly after, an ideology that I still hold today. But I still feel Jewish. And this leads me to my question: Would you consider a self-proclaimed agnostic Jewish?

Answer:

Let's start with this idea that you are an agnostic. This is a term coined by Thomas Huxley in the middle of the 19th century. It is the "doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience." Bertrand Russell wrote a sort of manifesto of the agnostic in these words:

That man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspirations, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of the universe in ruins-all these things, if not beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain, that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built.

Is that really what you believe? I guarantee that Russell himself never believed it -- because he was a champion for human rights and ethics to his last day. Neither could any human being truly believe it and continue to breath for even a moment. We are, all of us, creatures of hope. We live, we work, we marry and have children because we all believe there is purpose -- also those of us who overtly deny holding to such a belief.

As the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak Schneersohn (1880-1950), told one self-proclaimed atheist, "We are all believers in G-d. It is just a matter of definition."

You need to come to a deeper understanding of what exactly it is that you don't believe. And more importantly, what it is that you do believe. Not through philosophy or introspection, but by simply examining the way of life towards which you are naturally moving and determining the implications of such a life. Why do you love your spouse? Why are you so concerned about your children's identity? Why do you hold this conviction that there is more meaning to life than making another buck and buying a bigger house? More than any course of study or spiritual searching, this will tell you who you are and in what you truly believe.

And I believe you will discover that you believe in your heart all that every Jew inherently knows and believes.

May G-d be with you as you return your father's heritage to its rightful place.

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January 11, 2015
Please listen to what we agnostics are saying
We are not saying we don't have convictions, and for God, we are not asking you if we are agnostic (because the person who wrote the article above seems to have a hard time accepting what we are saying), we are reporting to you that we are and that's that. You want to believe me that in my "heart of hearts" or whatever I am agnostic? Fine. You don't? Fine.

Imagine that we have the "conviction" that the world is flat. Is it? Wait! I have that conviction! I "believe" it, so it's flat! No?

It's irrelevant what a person believes in. What matters is how it affects us. Belief is a psychological defense mechanism made to stop reasoning. That's why the Ramba"m must have mentioned "knowing" God in the first Mitzvah in Deot. I for one can tell you that I have no way of fulfilling this Mitzvah up to as much I've tried. Up to know I've been able to "believe", not to know. Belief is enough in Christianism, but not in Judaism. Belief is a conviction. That's not enough!
Alex
January 9, 2015
Huxley
I don't care if Huxley defined "agnostic" as quoted above. Most of that description sounds atheist not agnostic.
A true agnostic would venture no more than claiming that there is no objective evidence for G-d. The entire question of human mortality and life having any meaning over and above the purely atomic and energy level is also an open one to the true agnostic. It is not knowable at this time to say one way or the other he would say.
The lack of objective data of course is irrelevant since it is in the higher dimension of mind that G-d exists. And that is purely subjective.
Brian
CT
December 3, 2013
For scientists who believe in God, their intellect can move forward, but for atheist and agnostic scientists, their intellect cannot take a single step forward? This is an odd claim & stands up to no scrutiny. Its another example of "our path is the only path"--subscribed to by almost all of the world's religions. What if the true path is expressed only in how you live your life and relate to your fellow humans?
Judaism is one way, but there are many others.
Levi Tribesman
Boston MA. USA
December 3, 2013
Re: What is "faith"?
Yes, there is faith just simply arises out of emotion. That's stupid faith. But there is also a kind of faith that is a conviction that something must be so—and without that sort of faith, the intellect cannot take a single step forward.

The scientist, for example, has a conviction that the universe is intelligible, and in a very elegant way.

A good parent is one who has a conviction that his or her children will succeed, if only they will get the right guidance and encouragement.

A leader, an athlete, a visionary—all these are people of faith. If humanity would follow their power of reason alone, we would be likely still be hunting mammoths. But not large mammoths.
Tzvi Freeman
December 2, 2013
What is "faith"?
The comment was made that we are not "knowers", we are "believers".

What is to "believe"? To cling to a conviction with no reason whatsoever just based on feelings? To make oneself blind?

I think in that sense "to believe" is no different than that which Christianity and other religions prescribe. I would like to "believe" that Judaism is not like that but too often I find that when encountering the really hard questions people tend to at the end go back to just... blindly believing or blindly rejecting.

That is why I think we are all really agnostic. Because this concept of "believing" to me has no real importance other than what it really does; it's a self mechanism to stop the questioning by looking the other side. It's like "OK, that's too much for me! OK I know how I'll take care of it... I'll just 'pretend' and say that in a deep level if I pretend it then it must be 'true' not as facts but as 'belief'. Awesome!"
That is to self deceive oneself. We all do it.
Alex
Tel Aviv
November 29, 2013
Start Where You Are
One of the most powerful evidences of G-d comes from everyone's personal life. Haven't we all had one point in our lives where we've had experience with the divine? I have learned some of the most meaningful lessons about G-d as I reflect on my past... He really has been there. It's absolutely beautiful.

At times when faith becomes challenging, I always start where I'm at. I start by thinking about the times when I've have found relief in answer to prayers for peace, or the people that he's sent into my life when I've needed them. I think about what I very much know to be true, and I move forward from there.

Is this pattern of thought common for others?
Aaron
Cambridge, MA
May 25, 2013
to Bartley from Haifa
וידעת היום והשבותה אל לבבך כי השם הוא האלקים בשמים ממעל ועל הארץ מתחת אין עוד
"and you will know today and 'return' (such knowledge) to your heart that the Name is the God in the Heavens above and Earth below; there is no other".

That is what the Torah says. For sure that "believing" in the sense of not knowing but just subscribing to a certain faith for no measurable reason is not what the Torah "commands" us to do.
However, it is what I at the moment do. I too am an agnostic and practicing Jew (to a certain degree; for example I keep Shabbat). I wished I could tell you why. However I can't. And I think we are ALL agnostic.
But I have no doubt of one thing; the Torah does not leave the "emuna" issue to be just "faith" or "blind faith" as it is often translated to English. Emuna in Hebrew comes from the same root as "neeman" or "loyal". But on a deeper sense, it derives from the above verse I quoted. According to Halacha we must know God's existence 100%.
Alex
April 17, 2013
Actually it is not a contradiction to be a loyal Torah believing Jew and an agnostic. All it means to be an agnostic is that one does not subscribe to the value of science to be able to prove or disprove a diety. I do not see how this would contradict Torah. We are believers, not knowers.
Bartley Kulp
Haifa
April 13, 2012
agnostic
An agnostic's a man or woman of science, a person who uses logical assertions scientifically about the Universe and looks deeper into the subject, in defence of a claim that s/he doesn't believe in a religion: which is the root of agnosticism. It's an intellectual philosophy that analyses physical matter in a world where lots of people are religious, though the agnostic finds them unknowable and unprovable they're an intelligent bunch, for the agnostic knows something, and that something is physics and cosmology. With understanding of a universe but not the origin of it, of the world but no knowledge of the supernatural, against following a religion but on the sides of two parties: the atheists and the theists. And a style of living involving reverence at the expense of secularisation, respecting the gods but not believing in them.
Max Raoy Gron
Elizabeth Grove, SA Australia
March 21, 2012
"Saying you can't believe in something or someone you dont see is incorrect."
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It's not "incorrect". It's what he believes.
You believe in God, which is neither correct or incorrect. It's what you believe.
God exists within our beliefs. Or not.
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"...do you open up the hood of your car every morning..."
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This is a twisted parable.
We have faith cars will work because humans are absolute experts on cars, and the info stands up to any scrutiny.

Miracles don't "prove God's realness" [except in terms of an individual's beliefs]. The opposite of 'miracles' happens all the time--tragic suffering, torture and injustice.
God hasn't revealed himself in the real world, [though the Bible says he did many years ago.] If God was more than a belief, you'd be able to prove his existence. In an indisputable way. You can't. Therefore "God" is an intangible personal value, and I am an Agnostic. God may exist in the physical world. I haven't seen evidence of it. Certainly no proof.
Levi Tribesman
Boston, MA USA
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