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Question 2: Robotism


G-d knew exactly what I was going to do when He made me this way. I’m just a programmed machine. How can I be blamed for being what I am?

The Short Answer:

Human beings are not procedurally programmed machines. G-d is not the Grand Programmer -- He's a lot better than that. Just as G-d has free choice, so too, He has the ability to create systems that have their own free choice. The details of what you are going to do with what was given to you is decided by you in your own consciousness.

A Little Longer Answer:

Of course, if we believed the 19th century determinists, we wouldn't be able to say this. However, now that we find there are systems that allow a degree of unpredictability, it makes sense that the human mind could also be one of those systems. In fact, Nobel prize winning scientist, Sir John Eccles, together with the German physicist, Friedrich Beck, have proposed that the brain functions at the quantum level. Furthermore, along with many prominent researchers of the brain, they assert that the brain is only a device manipulated by a non-material consciousness -- the mind. The mind, Eccles and Beck write, exerts its influence over the brain by deciding which neurons will fire and which will not.

I can't avoid noting that Nachmanides ("Ramban", Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman, 1194-1270), in his commentary on Genesis, goes beyond this thesis, known as dualism. Expounding on the verse, "...and the human became a living soul," he explains that a union is achieved between the spiritual and the physical in the human body. The physical body, especially the brain, behaves in non-physical ways.

We human beings are very proud of the robots we create, and plan to create even neater ones in the future. But just because we do not know how to invest our own creations with free will, we cannot infer that the Creator of all things is similarly limited.

On to the next question: 

Since G-d knows the future, what choice do we have in it?


The Paradox of Free Choice - Six Questions

1) Determinism: Isn't everything predetermined by the mechanics of the universe?

2) Robotism: G-d knew exactly what I was going to do when He made me this way. Im just a programmed machine. How can I be blamed for being what I am?

3) Prescience: Since G-d knows the future, what choice do we have in it?

4) Omnipotence: G-d wants something to happen and it happens. So how could I possibly choose to do something He doesn't like? Who's more powerful, after all?

5) Oneness: Since there is nothing else but His Oneness, what room is left for us to make any difference?

6) Primal Cause: If G-d is the Primal Cause, doesnt the buck stop there?


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Posted: Aug 11, 2009
actually it does...
Your story does totally make sense... you just made my point. An omnipotent god must be a writer. No free will can exist. PLUS he can't be a good God. Because he chose for evil to be in the story.

If i was omnipotent and could have created any universe i wanted. I wouldnt have picked one with heroes and villains... Thats the second problem after free will... Teodice problem.

I would have written a carebear story where everyone lives in harmony... Ì wouldnt have created the devil... Just let people live.... in peace...

Thank you for making my point. Nice chatting with you.
Posted By Martin, uppsala, sweden

Posted: Aug 10, 2009
I hope you absorbed the distinction I made between a programmer and G-d-although you haven't referred to it at all, it is a useful device in dealing with omnipotence.

Let me explain the distinction between desire and intent: I write a story. I want the hero to win. i want the villain to be utterly destroyed. I intend for both of them to be there in my story, but while the hero is there because I desire the hero, the villain is there because I so much despise him.

Is this starting to make sense?
Posted By Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

Posted: Aug 10, 2009
God created evil.
I read that article. Im sorry to say that i was not impressed at all.... people really buy that stuff?

Being powerful and able to create things i have also power over the things i don't want to create. Saying it will be created simply by the omnipotent being not wanting them rendering him not only omnipotent but very powerless...

Im not sure the person writing that stuff understands what it means being omnipotent.

If i'm omnipotent; I will have no problem in fixing problems in the world at a zero time frame. But if you think further; since i created the world being omnipotent; there would be no problems. Everything is exactly like i want them. Otherwise i made a mistade in creating the world and that is not possible for an omnipotent being. The devils existence is there because God wants him to be. He knew that he would betray him. He knew that sending him to the earth would cause these things. It all comes down to the freewill argument. Which we are trying to resolve above.
Posted By Martin, uppsala, sweden

Posted: Aug 10, 2009
ok
I dont have a problem with the God create a rock.... I dont use that argument... Its not that fun to me.. Not that striking of an argument.

This is however: Why would god let anything exist that he doesnt desire? U say there is a diffrent from intent and desire.

Im not sure i think it can be a diffrence for an omnipotent being. Of all the universes he could have created, he chose this one. He chose all the small details about our life. He knew and chose every single little small thing about it.... In fact there is nothing in this world not predestined by god.

Im sry but i dont understand ur last sentence with "That "not desiring" is their entire raison d'etre and vitality"

Maybe u answered this question but i dont think u did....

Its very easy. Being omnipotent he chose to create this world and had INFINITE diffrent variations to chose from. He CHOSE this one KNOWING the future of this choice. Including adam and eve eating the apple, hitler, bush, stalin, crusades aso..
Posted By Martin, uppsala, sweden

Posted: Aug 8, 2009
There's an essay here on the rock thing: Can G‑d Create a Rock That's Too Heavy for Him to Lift?

Another point to consider: Intent and desire are not equivalent, meaning: Just because G-d intends that a certain event should occur or that a certain evil man should exist, does not mean that He desires that thing. On the contrary, many things come to exist because He does not want them. That "not desiring" is their entire raison d'etre and vitality.

For elucidation, please read Did G-d Create Evil?
Posted By Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

Posted: Aug 7, 2009
if u read up on ur philosophy
Even christian philosophers agree that some logical paradoxes limits God. To create a mountain that is heavy enough that he cannot lift it himself. That is one task that even if he is omnipotent he will never be able to do. And if he does. He isnt omnipotent.

Same problem with us and ur game character. Can he create us so that he doesnt know our future choices. It doesnt matter if we think we have freedom of choice.

If he created Adam and Eve. He would know exactly what choices we would make, he even knew we would have this conversation. If he didnt want the world to look exactly like it does. He would have created it alittle diffrent. Since he had infinite diffrent versions of world possibilitys to create... Hence Hitler was planned by god if god is omnipotent.
Posted By Martin, uppsala, sweden

Posted: Aug 6, 2009
back to Martin
Let's say I design a hero to star in a game on your PC, providing him as much AI as your CPU could handle, using the most sophisticated random functions and logarithms. To you, the character could seem very human. To the programmer, however, the character would be nonetheless predictable. That is the limitation of the programmer.

Who says, however, that the Cosmic Programmer has the same limitations? For one thing, being infinite, He can store and manipulate irrational numbers--something no finite programmer can do. For another, He designs His program from scratch, i.e. from absolute void, not relying on any pre-existing parameters.

Perhaps most significant, the device on which the program rests is not something distinct from the Programmer—it is simply, so to speak, His own imagination. If so, free choice on behalf of any character is really one and the same as the free choice of the Programmer.

The paradox of omnipotence and free choice is our limitation. Why should it be His?
Posted By Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

Posted: Aug 5, 2009
its not that hard....
Either he knew about adolf hitlers choices or not.... im guessing u say he knew since u say he is omnipotent.... He knew that AH would exercise his free will to do what he did....

God even knew when he created adam and eve that eve would use her free will to make adam eat the apple.

God had a choice when he created Eve to make her with the free will but that she would freely choose not to eat the apple....

That means that she was programmed....

And plz dont use the devil response.... The devil doesnt change anything....not anything about his foreknowlege or pmnipotence.....
Posted By Martin, Uppsala, sweden

Posted: Aug 4, 2009
For Martin
I'm saying that He's a lot more than what we imagine when we say "omnipotent". He is absolute. So He can allow free choice and yet still be omnipotent.
Posted By Rabbi Tzvi Freeman

Posted: Aug 4, 2009
so what u are saying?
That god isn't omnipotent? There are some things he cannot know beforehand?

Because if he is omnipotent he would know what our consiousness would decide for us.

Hence he is still the programmer....
Posted By Martin, uppsala, Sweden



 


The Paradox of Free Choice: Six Questions
Question 1: Determinism
Question 2: Robotism
Question 3: Prescience
Question 4: Omnipotence
Question 5: Oneness
Question 6: Primal Cause