318. Complacent

This is very deep. Sometimes a line will reverberate for a long time and this has staying power. Obviously the world is created with suffering as a deep and ongoing part, and to part with this, is to create a world with what? How do we move, without E.. Motion? it seems all stories are predicated on the rocks in the River of Life and that we all do bump against them and bleed. I do not know anyone who is unscathed, and yet these bruises, propel us to help others, to find meaning through tikkun, the healing of those broken places.

We must never consent to suffering. Ay there's the rub! A world in which G_d must suffer in order for us to perform such acts. Is this what is happening?

Then we must put G_d on trial and then forigve G_d for the sake of the story, knowing that even in the depths of deepest anguish, in that desert, we were never deserted.

I believe there is an answer to one of the most profound conundrums of our lives.

Perhaps it's not over when it's over: a vast stage...

i s it possible for a human being to ahve ultimate,absolute, virtuso knowledge in religion yet humanity has not gained such in the other disciplines?

im sure Rabbi Freeman can explain it better - but the way i see it, the Rebbe is saying that generally, when we want to know an answer to something, we can look in Torah and find the answer ... However, when it comes to these types of famous question such as: "Why do bad things happen to good people" - or questions such as "Why did the Holocaust happen" - what he is saying is that since we cannot find the answer in the Torah, then it must be that G-d does not want us to know the real reasons behind these horrible events.

Why would G-d not want us to understand? We'd be happier, and be able to reconcile the bad things because we'd know the master plan behind it all... it is for this reason that we are not supposed to know. G-d doesnt want us "agreeing" with his plan, or thinking "yeah that makes sense - therefore suffering is ok or necessary" - On the contrary - G-d wants us to be angry and pissed and upset that our fellow brothers are hurting and are in
pain.... G-d wants us to fight for them and pray and demand He stop the exile etc.....

if we understood G-ds entire master plan, then we'd be complacent and accept the suffering .... i found this concept to be very comforting (as weird as that may sound) especially when tragedy strikes.... we cannot understand His (G-d's) methods or His motives but only do what we are taught, as difficult as that may be, we need to continue on fighting the darkness.

Rabbi, help to understand this one better. "we might consent to what?" I feel there is great insight and I want to understand. Thank you for your time.

shalom rabbi freeman.
i dont get it either, however i would like to read the Rebbes whole message instead of just this little part. perhaps that will shed a lot of light on the subject than playing guessing games here.
will you please post said info? in english please.
be safe and blessed, neal

I disagree with the Rebbe. God first make the world with no suffering. Then Adam and Eve were not able to hold them-self and they eat the fruit of knowledge, which was defended on that time. So God was so angry that he send the punishment on the rest of the human nature : they will live in suffering and will work to life...until they die. It's simple no? We suffer, because God make the effects on the next generation! Otherwise, what would hold you on the right path?

"Our suffering is like the effects of the sculptor's hammer and scissor on the marble until his perfection" CSLewis

I don't understand, consent to what?

Sorry, I need someone to explain this one for me. Somehow there is a reason why He does not allow only "good" in this world. And the explanation here is because we would then consent to "bad" things? I don't get it!

I do not agree that knowing the answer would make people complacent to evil. I feel that it would give us more of a reason to try to wipe it out.
I also agree with Esfira that we all need answers to questions like this. Blind faith is great - if you don't question.......but many of us DO question......and we have a right to!! So why, as the Rebbe asked, are we not given answers to this type of thing??

I tried explaining this very thing in a lecture on energy workshop yesterday.

I said that in one's greatest suffering is his highest potential. His void is the negative space for his greatest joy. And so to make that negative a positive experience, he must give that which he lacks,generate within him that which he finds absent in his life and the world around him. It is in the presence of darkness and evil that the potential and call for good is heard the loudest.

Two people almost cried in recognition of this. One walked out, saying "this is not for me".

It is possible for us to see good in evil if we are aware that even evil serves G-d's good in a time scale.

But there are some who cannot accept that the evil in their lives that they blame for their suffering is their own missed opportunity to do the good it called for.