313. Beyond Understanding

Kudos to Chabad.org for printing ' illogical ' May 25, 2011.

Yasher koach.

It's the other way around: It is illogical to presume otherwise. Nothing actually starts with our thoughts. We didn't create ourselves by our own thoughts. G-d gave us logic as a tool, just as He gave us science as a tool. The world and the universe didn't actually start with either one of these, but most likely with a creator and His knowledge.

Secularists ('humanists') often like to believe that taking G-d out of our lives supports human logic, but this is actually illogical on their part.

Your fault, Rabbi Freeman, is that you presume that because you can't define G-d in a totally logical manner that therefore G-d must work illogically and always beyond our understanding.

In other words, you do the same thing of which you accuse others, but with a twist: You've gotten the 'idea' (note parenthesis) that the all knowing G-d is limited by what you can't think and can't understand.

Either way, Rabbi, the fault is with us not with G-d.

This is Torah magic. We as three dimensional beings given a glimpse into the infinity (even beyond multi-dimensinal).
It's a Good thing
Shabbat Shalom

Hashem's thought preceeds what happens on earth.
Today I do not think that the ten commandments are held with respect to their maker. This causes much confusion.

For ex.A person is murdered. Would that presume that the person needed to die so Hahsem sent someone to murder that particular person? It was the person's free choice to succomb to the thought to murder someone. Because in G-D's ten commandments it says thou shalt not murder, he could have the thought murder then checked it out with Hashem's laws, then decide. We would all say that the commandment should superceed the act on thought to murder.

If it came to be that we all would obey the ten commandment among the others then the person who died who was killed would still be alive? And if so then how would Hahsem complete His mission with this person?

Or maybe this person would be alive? and the killer a creator?

It does not seem to matter exactly who dies in a tornado, tsunami, illness. How much are we real partners?

isn't this "freedom" of choice, this "creative" liberty to choose a course of action, the "image" of G-d in which we are created? surely the "image" of g-d is not so limited,, nor the translation of our being formed, limited only (if at all) to a materialized, "formed" visual image. it is specifically in our freedom - to be G-d's agents of tikkun, of freeing the essence from the husk, here in the material world, that we are "in G-d's image."

I like reading this Rabbi's story

He is the creator we are created being and let it be beyond our understanding. Let it be my freedom of choice is I do not seek all knowledge

Thank you for delineating how our Free Choice and Hashem's Divine Will intersect. It always seemed so cumbersome to get a bead on the explanation. Your moving it into the realm of illogic, beyond logic, makes it a easier to make sense of it. The foundation that you take for granted, and as such assume, is that we have faith is the Oneness of Hashem, the One and Only Reality. Once you accept that, the rest falls into place.

Thanks again.

Create it by choosing to be it. We know what will happen because we create it by choosing to be it. Create the peace by choosing to be the peace. Create the positive change by choosing to be the positive change. Create the redemption by choosing to be the redemption.