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272. Absolute Values

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For mankind to exist in harmony, we must listen to the voice that Noah heard after the flood.

We must accept that there is a set of absolute values set by the Creator of the world, values that we cannot play with to suit our convenience.

Values from beyond the subjective minds of men.

Based on letters and talks of the Rebbe, Rabbi M. M. Schneerson
From the wisdom of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, of righteous memory; words and condensation by Rabbi Tzvi Freeman. To order Rabbi Freeman’s book, Bringing Heaven Down to Earth, click here.
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October 16, 2010
Absolutely
It seems the lesson is, if absolute value is absolutely objective, then it follows that there is the absolutely subjective. Is Torah the bridge?
Mr. Leon Anderson Jr.
October 7, 2010
bending rules and surrendering to His
There's a clever saying that Israel is the only country in the world where no one cares what rules say when an important goal can be achieved by bending them. I like this a lot, but keep in mind that there are some rules that must not be bent....EVER. If Israel has a gift for common sense, it's because G-d bestowed it in the first place. Like free will, we are expected to use it with discretion. And other times we must surrender to His alone.
happyminyan
Los Angeles, California
October 7, 2010
Subjective minds.
Yes, Rabbi Freeman,-

beyond the subjective minds of men.

Alright there.

The question then is:

How much of what is understood about the Torah and the laws proscribed from it are the results of absolute values from G-d, and how much is the result of our subjective minds?
Thomas Karp
New Haven, Ct.
October 7, 2010
A question of absolute
A short conversation I once had on the subject with a Jewish woman.

I won't mention her name here, but this woman is a well-known author of children's books.

I met her through relatives of mine, and in the course of the conversation she blurted out-'there are no absolutes and no absolute values".

My response was to ask her if she believed that absolutely.

Before she could respond in turn I pointed out to her that to exclaim that there were no absolutes and no absolute values was in itself an-

absolutist claim.

Is it an absolute truth that there are no absolutes?

If not then there are unquestionably absolutes.
Thomas Karp
New Haven, Ct.
October 7, 2010
Great Revelation!
This is a great revelation for me. Absolute values should be respected and followed.

Regards.
Shahid
March 4, 2008
clarification
The Rebbe was speaking about the laws of Noah. Here are some links with more information on that:
Universal Morality http://www.chabad.org/62221
The Discovery of Planet Earth http://www.chabad.org/1313
Seven Universal Laws http://www.chabad.org/132930
Tzvi Freeman
March 4, 2008
mida k'neged mida
I think the absolute truth which governs the universe is that we ultimately get whatever we give (mida k’neged mida) therefore if we want to be treated with compassion, respect, & mercy then we have to treat everyone else with compassion, respect & mercy.

Julie – thank you. I understand & agree with what you write about the awakening which is occurring due to the collective consciousness, leading to the rebirth of humility and kindness, at a higher level, by understanding verses by rule.
mayim
March 3, 2008
Absolutes: a recipe for imbalance?
This strikes me as kind of a dangerous teaching in a world without a strong leader. It was given by the Rebbe when he was with us, and able to correct our extremes via weekly sichos, letters and comments as we gave a dollar. But Orthodoxy has a nagging habit of placing raw halacha on a pedestal that should be reserved for G-d alone, and we have all seen the resultant perversions of Torah. Even in the days of Gemarra, the Rabbis had to instruct common sense, saying that, yes, you should save a drowning naked woman. That instruction was necessary because people made the laws of modesty so absolute that modesty became more important than saving a life. And (I believe) that Gemarra is a general teaching to use common sense, and to keep our priorities in balance.)

Chabad itself strikes a balance, something we see regularly. But to promote absolutes is worrisome in the hands of people prone to lose perspective, without a strong leader to correct errors.

My opinion!
Sheila
Worcester, MA
March 2, 2008
Mitzvot
There are 613 mitzvot in the Torah, and they occur throughout the Five Books of Moses. The first is to be fruitful and multiply. The ten commandments are only ten of them. Most of them pertain to the priests in the Temple. A few of them pertain only to women, and some pertain only to men. The ones about lovingkindness and tzdakah apply to everyone in the world. The especially Jewish ones that apply today are mostly about keeping Shabbos and keeping kosher. These are the ones which are inconvenient because they differ from the standards others keep. Well, Rabbi? Did I get that right? And nothing is said in the rabbi's post about peace. On the contrary, we have to be ready to fight, if necessary, for the right to do Gd's will, because if we just sit there, that will be taken for weakness and we will be attacked all the more. Did I get that right, Rabbi?
Dan Goldfarb
March 2, 2008
Absolute Values
We need to obey the Ten Commandments, and teach them to our children, neighbors, friends, and anyone who will listen, to the absolute values, written in stone, by the hand of our Creator.
Annebeth Riles Broad
Pelorus Sound, New Zealand
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