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Is a Jew Who Converts Still Jewish?


Question:

My sister was baptized and has since married and had a child. My mother claims the child is Jewish, but how could that be? If Judaism is a religion, if someone leaves it, she’s no longer Jewish, right?

Response:

Logically, I would have to agree with you. If Judaism is a religion, then someone who doesn’t believe in the religion should be no longer Jewish. The reality, however, is that it doesn’t work that way.

Throughout the Tanach, we find Jews breaking every facet of their covenant with G‑d, joining and forming all sorts of idolatrous cults and heathen practices. Yet when the prophets chide them, they are called “My people, Israel.”

The Talmud1 focuses in particular on the precedent of a notorious character named Achan, who appears in the story of the fall of Jericho.2 “Israel has sinned,” exclaims G‑d. “They have transgressed My covenant that I commanded them.” Yet in the story’s narration we discover that the lone sinner is Achan, who took from the spoils of Jericho. The Talmud points out that nevertheless Achan is considered “Israel,” and remarks, “Israel, although he has sinned, is still Israel.”

The choice of precedent is poignant and the wording laden with subtle meaning: Achan has broken “My covenant that I have commanded them”—interpreted by the Talmud to mean not only one detail, but the entire covenant of Torah. Yet he remains not only a Jew, but “Israel”—the entirety of the Jewish People in a single individual.

The principle extends not only to genealogical Jews, but converts as well. In Tractate Yevamot3 we learn that once a person has fulfilled all the requirements of a proper conversion, he is considered “like Israel in all matters.” The Talmud explains those last words to mean that even if this convert would return to his pagan ways, “if he marries a Jewish woman, he has the same status as an apostate Jew, and they are considered married.”

Why does the Talmud choose to discuss Jewishness in terms of whether or not a marriage is valid? This is also precise: When it comes to having this Jew slaughter meat for you, or relying upon him in other areas of kosher and similar matters, his status may indeed be the same as that of a non-Jew. But those are technicalities, dependent on extraneous factors. Marriage, however, is the real test of Jewishness. Even if a non-Jew would marry a Jew with a chupah and a rabbi presiding with all the procedures “by the book,” the marriage does not have the validity of a marriage sanctified in accordance with Jewish law. Saying that “they are considered married” is the best Talmudic language available for “Yes, he is still Jewish.”

Based on the above statement of the Talmud, the Jewish Code of Law4 rules that a marriage between a Jewish man and a Jewish woman who “convert out” is completely valid. Therefore, their children are considered Jewish and could also marry other Jews.

Which brings us to your case, where a Jewish woman has joined another religion and married a non-Jew. In this instance, as well, since Jewishness is matrilineal, her children are considered Jewish.5

Apparently, Jewishness is about neither religion nor race. Unlike a race, you can get in, but unlike religion, once you’re in you can’t get out. As with Achan, once you are a part of this people, you are the entire people. As Israel is eternal, so your bond with them is irreversible, unbreakable and eternal.

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FOOTNOTES
1.

Sanhedrin 44a.

2.

See Joshua 7:1–26.

3.

48a.

4.

Shulchan Aruch, Even Ha-ezer 44:9.

5.

Rema, ibid.


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Posted: Mar 13, 2012
Basvach, I agree. Unfortunately,
It appears that in every religion, not just Judaism, the power lies in the hands of those most "devout" or strict and literal in their interpretations of their tenets. Is it right? Moral? Needed? Spiritual? To them, it is. Since they hold the power, they make the decisions. Others have the right in most cases to accept it all, in part, or not at all. Whatever is our decision, we need to accept whatever are the inevitable consequences. For example, a religion which says you must do A, B and C in order to marry with someone in that order, just won't marry the two of you if you aren't both A, B and C. It's logical. Moral? Not to the observer, but it is to the persons practicing that belief. Pastors of various churches won't do intermarriages, so if Jew wants to marry a Xtian, he or she converts to Xtianity, and vice versa. That doesn't change who they are, just how people perceive them and accept them into their "fold". Just my opinion. Not Chabad stand or belief.
Posted By Karen Joyce Chaya Fradle Kleinman Bell, Riverside, CA, USA

Posted: Mar 12, 2012
Conversion
In regards to converting to Judaism: I keep reading people's claims here of a "Conversion Process" spelled out in the Torah. Where is this process? I've never seen it. truth is: there is no Conversion Process, other than a person's soul yearning to connect with HaShem. This "process" was invented by rabbis, is expensive, and was designed to allow only those they deemed "acceptable" to join their clique (family/friends, and those with influence in the community, etc.). The first converts were those who put blood on their doorposts. Included in those people were Egyptians, and many Hebrews choose not to apply the blood, or not to convert. Later, in the Book of Rut, we read how a young girl, who lost all her immediate family, decided to convert, to follow the religion of her aunt, to become a Jewess. I see no long, complicated, expensive processes here, just a willingness to adopt G-d's decrees, statutes, as spelled out in TORAH, and of course, G-d accepting...not some man deciding.
Posted By Basvach shel Hahar, Tonawanda, NY/USA

Posted: Mar 12, 2012
Scott, this is so very true.
Thank you.
Posted By Karen Joyce Chaya Fradle Kleinman Bell, Riverside, CA, USA

Posted: Mar 11, 2012
no conversion
No conversion or even lack of following the laws can erase the deep calling of our soul that is the link with us and Hashem, our jewishness and our soul is connected to the Eternal so that goes beyond all aspects of stints in religeon, and we are completed only when we return to Him.
Posted By Scott Blum, SanAntonio, Texas

Posted: Mar 11, 2012
Chavalah, what is "anusim"?
I don't know much Yiddish. Only things like, "Gay Avek", "Gay Shlofen", "Clozen Zein Aygalah", "Loch N Kopf", "Ketzelleh", "Kindelach", etc. By the way, how I tricked my brain into thinking I still was worshipping one G-d when I was into Xtianity, was to just say to myself, "It's only a name, but it represents only one G-d".
Posted By Karen Joyce Chaya Fradle Kleinman Bell, Riverside, CA, USA

Posted: Mar 11, 2012
Anusim
I'm not familiar with stories of people being given a hard time. The Rebbe made it clear is some of his letters that Jews who converted and came back need to use the mikvah for purification. But not that they needed to be put through the ringer to be allowed back in.
Posted By Rabbi Zalman Nelson, Safed, Israel

Posted: Mar 11, 2012
then why give Anusim such a hard time?
Nice article and I agree with you, but why do so many rabbis give anusim a hard time when they want to return to being observant?
Posted By Chava, TAMPA, FL

Posted: Dec 5, 2011
Andrea in Washington,
I don't care that you don't take my story seriously, It is my story and not yours. It amazes me when people think what happened to me didn't happen because it didn't happen to them. You don't know me. It is a true story. I came back to Judaism, and I did start lighting the candles again. But, I do NOT put my hands through the flames like my grandma did. That is where I draw a line. And, although my sons (grown) do not follow Judaism, they know they have Jewish names, were circumcised, and they respect my choice to return.
Posted By Karen Joyce Chaya Fradle Kleinman Bell, Riverside, CA, USA

Posted: Dec 4, 2011
A Jew is a Jew
In my youth I tried on many religions in my search for a perfect fit. When I decided to be baptized into the Seventh Day Adventist church I told my parents. Although I grew up in a home that was not observant my parents felt strongly about their Jewishness. In a panic, my mother called her father's best friend who happened to be a Rabbi. Calm down, he told her. If you take an elephant and dunk it in the water, what to you have? A wet elephant! She is a Jew. So they'll dunk her in the water. She'll be a wet Jew. She is searching, and that's not a bad thing. Don't worry; she'll be back.
He was a very wise man. My searching led me home, and I dried off long ago. I'm still a Jew.
Posted By Dvorah, Lakeville, PA

Posted: July 13, 2011
This has always comforted me
I am a convert to Judaism, converted through an Orthodox Beis Din, but I left observance a long time ago. I have made countless attempts to return, and I still believe that I will fully return some day, but it has always comforted me that when I became a Jew, I became one for life, no matter how far I have strayed.
Posted By Sarah Dinah, San Marcos, TX



 


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