Controversy and Irony at SeaTac Airport
 | Apparently, some reporters and news editors already "knew" that the rabbi is against the trees, and nothing--not even their own reportage--was going to change the way they present the story
118 Comments Posted
What a wonderfully writen story. As a first generation American and the Granddaughter of a Survivor, I find it reasuring when I see a Menorah burning next to a christmas tree. It not only shows that this country is a "safe" haven for all but it reasures our children that it is Okay to be proud of their heritage and religion.
I found it unbelivable that a city such as Seattle woud refuse to erect one single Menorah amoungst the 9 christmas trees at the air port. I think it shows that this country, no matter how good, has a long way to go before it follows it's own Constition. Thank you Rabbi for bringing this issue to the forfront. It has become a National story, not just a Local one and the air port authority will be dealing with the poor PR for a long time to come!
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I am glad to hear more about this story. However, I still feel that we as Jews do not need to be advertising our religious in such a public atmosphere. Aren't we supposed to be modest and just live our lives in a modest and not so public manner. Especially, threatening lawsuits over such things seems rediculous.
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I live in cities where Christmas decorations are put up by city workers. These decorations and the men, trucks, tools, etc. are all paid for by Tax Payer's Money, no one asked the citizens of these cities if they 1) wanted any decorations any time of year, 2) what holiday's should have decorations or should there be a generic Holiday display: And When, 3) if all the money set aside for Christmas could be used considering #1 & #2.
You don't have to be immodest to ask for your Faith's Holiday recognized with a public display. There is nothing immodest about having YOUR Faith displayed. It isn't pride, it isn't force. Your Faith is Displayed daily by your actions, but there are symbols that cheer and lighten the day when it comes to Faith, symbols to remind the human mind what the spirit knows: Know God, Know Happiness, No God , No Happiness.
I was outraged when the airport removed the trees because they didn't want to show another Faith's Holiday Reminder. I was more outraged when all, ALL news listings I saw linked the Rabbi's web site and contact information in the story and NOT the Airports ....
Peace will come with Tolerance, on all sides, remember what the world is trying to forget, remember the past, learn from it ... diversity builds strong nations..
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I have followed the Christmas tree controversy quite closely, and THE issue was the lawsuit. I have no problem with a Menorah at all. However, I was incredulous when it was reported that the rabbi and his lawyer tried after the fact to say that the menorah was NOT In fact a religious symbol, but was rather "secular like a Christmas tree", because, "It will hold no oil, and is even UL approved". Who are they trying to kid?
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In the response to those who are bothered by the "lawsuit":
First of all, there was no lawsuit filed (although many newscasts gave the impression that there was). The rabbi's lawyer simply made it clear that legal action was a recourse.
And what exactly is wrong with that? Were it not for the possibility of legal action, every citizen of this country would be at the mercy of every pigheaded, bureaucratically lazy, and/or racist/anti-Semitic official at any government agency (and it would seem that the people in charge at SeaTac are either one, two or all three of the above). The Civil Rights movement in this country was successful largely due to litigation. If not for the fact that citizens have the right to sue their government--and avail themselves of this right--our schools would still be segregated, and "people of color" would still be relegated to the back of the bus!
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I was very upset after watching the coverage of this story on the Today Show. I appreciate hearing the facts about the situation and not some distortion that makes good TV.
Is there anything that the public can do to influence the Port Authority to do the reasonable and right thing?
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Why did you have to ask in the first place. In the U.S. people accept and respect chanukah. Your only fueling disrespect toward your beliefs when you raise your voice too loudly. The beautiful jewish people dont deserve this treatment at such an honored traditional time.
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My goodness sake. Its a special holiday. Why do some people has to spoil everyones holiday all because of their faith. We are in the U.S.A. now. Christmas is a tradition that has been passed through many of years. Joining everyone together. Only heavenly above knows what is happening below. First of thing is we don't see other religions bothering anyone on Christmas. If you see more people disagreeing of whats happening and calling a few as the grinch. Its true, it will be proper just to apologize to everyone for spoiling their holiday.
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I prefer a simple Menorah in my dining room window during dinner during Channukah. If others prefer a public display, that's good.
If only all understood Netivot Shalom (Paths of peace.)
Our shul doesn't even have a sign, yet new people come, saying they were led by Hashem. However, we will soon start doing more outreach.
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What is the big deal having all faiths display symbols in a peaceful way? Why create anger and bitterness, and give other nations reasons to hate us?
Stores, banks, business offices, etc. show menorahs and christmas trees always. what is wrong with that for airports-- where all nations and faiths travel? is not our world a "melting pot"/ united nations? we live in America where we have freedom of religion?
What bothers me is the way the bias media make look like a fanatical rabbi made a fuss over the tree- people fearing if they should wish "seasons greetings, or merry Christmas- for fear of offending other religions! Why can't we acknowledge an individual's religion with respect and dignity?
May we all have a someach, frelach (happy), healthy, and safe Chanukah!
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I agree that the airport should have put up the menorah, but in the interest of accuracy I would like to point out that a Google search finds no headline saying "Rabbi Forces Removal of Christmas Trees" or anything remotely similar.
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Newscasters' words and the messages displayed on the screen behind them in TV newscasts don't show up on google. View the TV coverage of the first day after the story broke (if the tapes can be retrieved) and you'll see and hear statement that make "Rabbi Forces Removal of Christmas Trees" look quite mild in comparison.
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I do not understand the argument that Yanki Tauber is making, when he quotes "How can I myself avoid feeling resentful, left out, discriminated against?". At the end of this article, he quotes "Shamefully, the airport is still obfuscating about why it is one of the only places in the United States to deny a menorah request". Last time I checked, the Christmas tree has nothing to do with Christianity, and I have seen many public places where a menorah is allowed, but a nativity scene or cross is forbidden. I understand why christians feel discriminated against!
I see there was much more to this news story than was reported in the news. That should be no suprise to anyone. What does suprise me, is that we would expect the secular press to positively report a religious organization trying to "blackmail" a goverment institution into displaying its symbols. Hopefully, we can learn from this, that actions have consequences. If you threaten to sue, you may not get what you asked for
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I can understand why so many people reacted as they did to the story. In a society where religious values ARE under attack, when hearing that christmas trees were removed, it is natural to assume that this is yet another attempt by certain elements to eradicate religion from the public eye.
It's a real shame, however, that the media didn't bother properly highlighting the real facts, as you have done in this article. Keep up the good work!
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To clarify things for your community, very few people associate Christmas trees with Christianity. People aren't running through SeaTac looking at a Christmas tree thinking "Holy Trinity tree - nice".
Now, if the port decided to put up huge nativity scenes throughout the airport, or 8' crosses with Jesus on them (although that would be an Easter decoration I imagine), it would be overtly Christian and the majority (read 90%+, including Christians) would be offended.
I think a giant menorah would have the same reaction - "too religious".
So the take away here: don't think Jesus when you see a tree, think Bing Crosby, snow ball fights, Santa Claus, Elves, massive commercialism (aka presents), Frosty........and trees freshly ripped from the ground adorned with hand crafted ornaments from our kids.
If the Jewish community wants to contribute to the love of the season, stop suing people for equal placement of religious symbols and enjoy the fun of the American "Christmas".
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With all the upheaval in Lebanon and Gaza, Jimmy Carter's new book attacking Israel, the rampant anti-semitism in Europe and in American universities, pictures of rabbis embracing Ahmadinejad at a holocost denial seminar and Pope Benedict going to Turkey and praying towards Mecca, this lawyer in Seattle must be a real idiot. I suggest getting a lawyer who understands politics.
In the article it is stated, "The irony is that Rabbi Bogomilsky and his colleagues are squarely on the very opposite side of the debate." There's no irony here, Seatac called Bogomilsky's bluff and it blew up in his face. This only alienates Christians, feeds anti-semitism and delights Judaism's enemies. His lawyer threatened to sue the airport "to get their attention" and instead he got the world's attention. When Christian support for Judaism is gone, then who's support will be left? It doesn't matter that Rabbi Bogomilsky didn't mean for this to happen. Rabbis should be smarter than that.
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The problem is, if the Airport does put up a Menorah in response to someone's insistance that their religion get representation, then they have to start putting up sheaves for Kwanzaa, representations of Islam, even Satanism, Buddhism, Ba'Hai, what have you.
For the guys who run the airport, this represents not only greater expense, but a huge hassle, and it's simply easier to not have ANYTHING than to have 123981723 different required icons. And to be honest, perhaps they prefer having a Christmas tree and nothing else, is that wrong?
For those who feel their children are somehow feeling resented, discriminated against, or not proud of his "Jewishness," Christians aren't represented by Christmas trees. The holiday means nothing that it once did, judges are requiring people to avoid actually representing any core meaning of Christmas. Feeling discriminated against because of a tree or Santa? Try having any trace of your faith forcibly removed from the public eye.
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When I was in my teens and twenties, diversity scared me. Now I love every different person I meet. Great article
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Some say Christmas is a secular holiday, not a religious one. Others assume, as I have been taught, that it is a christian holiday, re the name. There is talk of political correctness and separation of church and state. What is it anyway. Maybe we do need to rethink the holiday.
I was brought up Christian and Democrat, yet I found myself feeling overwhelmed by the plethora of Christmas decorations in the building I live in, from the outside of the building to inside the elevators. I wondered if people of other religions would feel left out and then, as a reaction to the Religious Right, I asked myself who in the h__ are these people shoving their ideology at me even in the elevator. So call me Grinch, but right now, though I love Christmas and especially the lights, I could do with less.
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Most people don't seem to get the "big picture".
Since 9/11 most Christian Americans have come to realize that terrorism is not just an Israeli problem, and now have a better understanding what Israel, and we the Jewish people are facing.
This has resulted in a better understanding and improved Judeo-Christian relations. The Conservative Republicans who also happen to be religious Christians have been strong supporters of Israel and implicitly of the Jewish people.
The leftist War Against Christmas and the threat of radical Islamic dominance has understandably made Christian Americans very sensitive to any perceived erosion or threat to Christianity.
Recent events show that Israel, and implicitly all Jewish people are again under direct threat by Iran and other Arab countries, perhaps to a greater extend now than any other time since 1948.
There is no support for the Jews or Israel in Europe or Asia, or any other continent for that matter, which leaves the United States as the sole ally of the Jewish people.
By the Rabbi threatening legal action over such a trivial matter, this has lead to an inevitable and quite foreseeable frenzy by the leftist and generally anti-Jewish media.
The resulting isolation of the Conservative Republicans, together with their diminished Congressional influence, amongst a sea of anti-Jewish Democrats in a hostile world hardly make the threat of a lawsuit and the inevitable adverse publicity a pertinent move.
Christian Americans are not our adversaries. Jews and Christians face a common and very real threat to our civilization that can only be defeated together.
Perhaps a better understanding of world events, the recognition that the United States is a predominantly Christian country, together with some discretion and sensitivity on the Rabbi’s part would have been more perspicacious.
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Happy Holidays! Goodwill to all! Peace on Earth! Is this season secular, religious, or both? Isn't a "Christmas" tree really a Holiday Tree? Why not focus on the meaning? Even if you believe that this symbol is a religious symbol, why must a celebration of anyone's religion require a celebration of all? Shouldn't each of us be allowed to celebrate - be he Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc.? Let each have their holiday. Encourage a public celebration of Judiaism at Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashana. Be proud of your culture and tolerant of others...
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"Don't fight to remove the trees--put up menorahs! Don't direct your efforts to make America "less Christian"--work to celebrate America's freedom to encourage Jews in their Jewishness. "
I wholeheartedly agree! This nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and even though the majority of Americans are Christians, Jews are a big part of our country and it's history.
I am a Evangelical Christian, and I totally support Jews displaying Menorahs along side of Christmas Trees and Nativity Scenes. Despite what the liberals and Mainstream Media says, there are only two major religious holidays celebrated this time of year, Christmas and Hanukkah, and Jews and Christians ought to celebrate them together.
I am a blogger and posted on how the Rabi got a bad rap on this issue, and how it was the Port officials fault. And on how Ft. Collins, Co. would not allow a Menorah be part of their public display.
The only way to combat ignorance is through education, both Jews and Christians need to educate the public, together.
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The immediate and vehement response by so many people responding to the lousy media coverage was a modern example of how to start a pogram. almost everyone questioned Rabbi Bogomilsky while few even wondered why the airport would deny a Menorah. The common response repeated over and over that I saw was "he didnt get what he wanted but got what he asked for". Mind you this was not being said nicely but scornfully. The so-called friendly Christian right turned wrong very quickly and over something that as most of them would quickly acknowledge carries no religious message but a merely a visual and symbolic message, sort of like an electric Menorah with blue lightbulbs. If so, one must ask the obvious question why blame the Rabbi and not the airport? The only answer that was repeatedly stated was that "he brought the lawyer into this...". I suppose SEA-TAC is supposed to be intimidated by a lawyer waiving around Supreme Court rulings supporting fair play in public areas.
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The immediate and vehement response by so many people responding to the lousy media coverage was a modern example of how to start a pogram. Almost everyone questioned Rabbi Bogomilsky while few even wondered why the airport would deny a Menorah....
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Based on several comments above I would like to point out that the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled that menorahs, like Christmas trees, can be secular symbols if they are not part of a religious-themed display.
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I'm Christian and here's how I see it: Yes, Hanukkah should be recogonized as a Jewish tradition; but should it be recognized ALONGSIDE Christmas, just because it falls near the Christian holiday?! Jews, so I'm told by Jews, don't even consider Hanukkah a major religious event! And where are Jews out there in the secular community the rest of the year, promoting Judaism and its beliefs??
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Although i know that the point of Chanukah is Chinuch, education, and to publicize the miracle of "the many over the few" and the miracle of the lights, one of the very big probelm is that Chanukah comes in December. And as such, we look like we are trying to compete with the Christians. I wonder if there is any way to make more noise about Sukkos, or Purim or Pesach. I know there isn't because Of this huge mentaly of the "season". But that is what I will teach my family and anyone else willing to listen and opentheir mind.
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Next time you want to go trekking through the backwoods of this country, go first to any golf course and check out what the golfers are wearing.
Maybe the press would see you differently wearing one of those loud jackets, pink pants, and wide scottish cap!
Keep up your great work - if it weren't for Chabad, I'd still be eating cheeseburgers at McDonalds and know nothing about my treasured heritage. Chag Sameach Culam (Happy Holiday everyone)!
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Thank you so much for giving me the real "fair and balenced" side of the story. I heard the news and I was quite mad, and expressed that agravation, that a Jew was willing to put himself in that sensitive position that most Jews shouldn't be in. But now thanks to you, the only poeple that SHOULD be in that position, chabad, is the one that's in the problem and I realized I did a horrible mistake. I beg forgiveness, just to show the extent of loshon hara (negative speech)....
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I am sorry to say that I have personally experienced the same thing with the media. A message for the masses that would have helped and not hindered people's viewpoints was published. Little of what I said was included, despite my insistance on the purpose of my story. What I did say was twisted and taken out of context.
With the media so powerful, I have questioned myself on how to deliver messages of hope when all they want is doom and gloom.
I did call out the reporter on his mistake. He said "not to wrry about it. I was just the lightning rod for people's frustrations'.
I have to yet figure out how to deliver the message I had originally intended. Unfortunetly, at a point, it becomes hard to trust anyone or not lose hope.
I know that many people individually feel the same about core issues. How do we overcome this?
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I'm of two thoughts on this one. Would I like to see a menorah in the airport? Of course.
Does it not being there mean something.......yes and no. Yes, of course it would be nice to be pubicly represented. Do I feel left out....no. What, just because a holiday falls at the same time of year we have to wave flags and threaten lawsuits? No.
We get with our families, and eat latkes and sufgyanot, and remember years gone by, and we share this with our children ... that's the deal:). Happy Hanukkah y'all!
As with a lot of Jewish festivals ... we celebrate, and we do so ... because, they came, they tried to kill us, we fought, we won, we're still here .....lets eat!!
I think the light of one hanukkiah in one Jewish home, shared with others, Jewish and not ... is far brighter than any ol airport could ever do! So rock on, and Hag Sameach;)!
PS. and Rabbi, next year, just show up with the menorah, don't ask permission first ;)
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I'm very grateful for the reassurance that no Chabad Rabbi threatened a lawsuit over the Seattle dust-up about Xmas trees and Menorahs.
Our news media is no longer "news", it's simply propaganda. My editor would never have let me get away with such rotten reporting, but that was years ago, when one needed two, unrelated and strange-to-each-other sources or he'd kill the story! One a third-generation democrat, then a republican and now, an idependent since both parties are almost equally dreadful, I am sad that we can't be as "liberal" in the old sense of that term as those in Hong Kong, who allowed the largest Hannukka menorah in the world to be put up near the Harbor, only a few years ago...
The Christians I know are not at all full of hate against Jews, but on the contrary, filled with love of Israel to the extent that they visit despite the terrorist war going on there...I hope, with all my heart, that Americans will not listen to the lies of the media, but will find out the facts.
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2006 and we're still trying to figure out how to put menorahs and trees together for the holidaze? Back in the early 1960's, a new family development in Baltimore initiated the practice of placing a large Christmas tree and a beautiful, equally large menorah in the center circle to which all the streets were connected. Candy canes and dreidels were passed out to all of the neighborhood children. How visionary! How egalitarian!
The U.S. is forever culturally diverse even if its economy reflects European Christian ideas and customs. I applaud the fact that Rebbe suggested we take the high road on all issues of diversity.
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I saw a great article on this issue on askmoses.com; it gives a jewish spin on the story and brings out a really meaningfull and powerful message. Go Chabad for giving us some worthwhile reporting on current events!
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In the USA, Christmas seems to have become a season: Chanukah is a holiday -- and a minor one at that. Why is there a need to compete? I loathe seeing menorahs displayed in commercial settings: I hate seeing signs wishing a generic "Happy Chanukah." Let it go. We are 5 million plus in a land of 300 million -- and lucky to live in a secular society in a Christian nation where we are protected, respected and can thrive.
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I am appalled at Rabbi Bogomilsky's actions, and his (and his lawyer's) description of the Menorah as a secular symbol.
What mitzvah is fulfilled by installing a large electric menorah next to a Christmas tree?
I argue that doing so only adds to the popular conflation of Hannukah as the "Jewish Christmas." We have lots of other holidays - we should let the Christians have theirs, unmolested.
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It's interesting that Xmas trees are never mentioned in the Christian bible. The Miracle of Chanukah is mentioned in the Book of "John". Shouldn't true Christians prefer Chanukias to secular Xmas trees?
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I am not an observant Jew (though I am a knowledgeable Jew) & do not like the idea of religious expression in publicly owned spaces.
But if there has to be such expression I'm entirely with Chabad on this issue. I am deeply offended by the Port's response to this matter; esp. by their refusal to put up a menorah after putting the Christmas trees back up. IMO they should be sued, THIS YEAR.
And thanks for leaving the link to this post at my blog, Tikun Olam. The content here made me realize the Port was even more duplicitous & inept than I'd thought.
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I had to read more about this story - from both "sides". After doing so, the biggest question in my mind was "Are these acts inspired by God through prayer?"
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to most religions, the only thing that should guide one in this life is God/Alla/Omnipotent/etc - not pride in your religion, race or culture, not money or worldly aspirations. Therefore, was God's will consulted in this Rabbi's decision to 1) Ask for a Menorah display and 2) Threaten a lawsuit? Would it please HIM that people were now debating the political issues surrounding Christmas as opposed to thinking about, peace, love and charity? Did this Rabbi even discuss this with HIM in prayer and was the Rabbi inspired one way or another? I would truly love to have an honest answer to this question.
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I am a Jew by choice and one of the things I most enjoy about Judaism is the way we celebrate our festivals. I live in hope that Chanukah will eventually return to being a "quiet" family/community oriented festival.
Chanukah should not be used to "compete" with X-mas. Chanukah should be a celebration of Jewish values, Jewish determination, and the Jewish committment to Torah and our responsibility to keep the ligt of Torah in the world.
I believe when we light our menorahs in our homes, the impact is permanent and lasting. It is a continuation of our traditions from generation to generation. The true essence is in the ruach that kept the Temple Menorah burning for eight days on one vial of oil. For me and my family, no commercialized public display could ever hope to compete with the menorah's that burn brightly in our homes and hearts..
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I feel so lucky that my rabbi's request to the city resulted in a large menorah being putin our "plaza" here in Santa Fe.
Welcomed with open arms, we will have our annual menorah lighting ceremony this sunday and our mayor will be in attendance.
We will serve hundreds of potato latkes to Jews and non-Jews alike.
We all share this earth and we should all be fairly represented.
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Having done business with the Ports of Seattle and Tacoma for parts of three decades, I can honestly say that the mentality of the goyim there equals that of the Yokels for Yoshkis in Colorado Springs. How many times have I heard people out here say, "Well, why DON'T you people celebrate Christmas? Everyone else in the world does." Um, not exactly, Elmer...."
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Perhaps the good Rabbi's mistake was to think in terms of suing Christians on Christmas because he wanted to put up a Menorah. Sue a Christian on Christmas? Who would think of such a thing?
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As a practicing Roman Catholic I for one would welcome the Menorah. I think it is a beautiful reminder of G-d's faithfulness to His people and promises. On my way to church and work, I pass a synagogue with a large menorah on its lawn. It reminds me that G-d's light continues to shine in this dark world.
I think the people who have problems with Christmas scenes or menorahs are people who are either very insecure around any religious symbol or they are culturally religious and do not understand the deeper meaning of these special holy days. I say keep the light of the menorah burning!!!
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A question, what do you people think would happen if a christian priest ask that the Nativity scene be displayed at the airport in Tel Aviv on Christmas Day? And would you support their decision?
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I remember when our chevra first put a menorah up in Leeds outside theChabad house, and in Leeds City Centre; criticism came from Leed's Jewry affiliated to the shuls; we shouldnt show are religion here ,they protested; but many unaffiliated welcomed these and still do
wishing you all a Frailichy Chanukah
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I am a Jew from Switzerland, and I accidently tumbled on this news surfing on Yahoo. I have been first very surprised, when I heard about the story and was very sad to see this story to extent to which it degenerated.
The action of the aiport authority & the negative coverage in the news is unfortunate, excessive but not surprising.
But what saddens me most is your reaction, the lack of self questioning and feeling of injustice that you seem to feel.
The United States is not Israel and I believe that this insistence to put a Menorah in the airport was a grave mistake.
We are Jews not Americans or French and the US is only the disapora.
Jews in the US take the American freedom for granted. And sometimes abuse from it.
When, we should instead display more judgement, carefulness and humbleness in our every action. This was not the case in this incident and it backfired on us and will continue do so.
Has this incident brought any light to our nation? Why?
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This article shoudl be submitted to all national publications as OpEd article.
Shame on SeaTac for twisting the story.
I now bought a menorah to put in my window.
Kudos to chabad to spreading the light !!!
Happy Chanukah to all,
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As a Jew I am totally dismayed to find that in this world of great diversity we have to fight to be recognized.
Being raised in America early on in the 50's etc. we were forced in school to have Christmas songs, displays, etc. with no mention of other religions. Then as the years went by it changed a bit, but even today - the holidays come around trees, etc. come out and it is a total Christian display with NO diversity.
I believe and still will believe and have pride to hope the Rabbis continue to fight for each and every town, city, little bitty or big in Washington State to have - not only Christmas displays but add the Menorah also this would encourage other religions to do the same and together - and I mean together as a nation of diversity, a nation of many, many faiths to finally agree we are all one.
God does not chose which person, Jew, Christian, Muslim or other to go to his throne. God chooses those who have held the faith, and be all brothers on this earth.
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Shouldn't Christians celebrate Chanukah, too? Jesus did.
Also, so what if there are no Christmas trees in the airport? I put mine up in my house and do not care if there are any in airports, lobbies, etc. We can celebrate quite well at home.
It would be nice, however, if the lighting ceremony were held in public. It would help my fellow citizens better understand Judaism and the meaning of the Menorah and Chanukah. Many of us are (or were) simply ignorant. Understanding is always better when shared.
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Thank-you for the truthful account of the story.
My husband was arguing about it saying exactly what the news was reporting. I have very mixed emotions aobut putting up a Menorah. I believe that people are becoming more anti semitic thanks to these incidens, Mel Gibson etc. I have encountered such filth and hate that I fear for my people. I would rather let the Christians have what they want and let Hashem take care of them and us.
Growing up I just had to learn that Chanukah was my holiday and Christmas was a Christian holiday. enjoy the prettiness of it and think of it as just pretty.
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Once again the media (The Fourth Estate) has not been willing to it's homework-background checks but copy. At one time it was the political left in the last century. Now the political right and those who will go with what-ever the flow...to just get a 'story'...even make-up ones...with no currections, footnotes, etc. And less with any backgrounds in consitutional things or why America was founded. I have Huguenot, Mennight(sp), etc in my family tree.
Someone has said that if the past is forgotten-then the past will repeat...Or something like that.
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I'm all for the Menorah and spreading light and all that. But as soon as you start with threatning a law suit, you better be prepared for thos invloved to hit you back. It's simple human nature, regardless of the reasons.
An additional point: Airports are complicated places. The Rabbi should have approached them last January, or April, or the latest in July. Coming at them eight weeks before the holiday and then throing his weight around leaves a bad taste in anyone's mouth.
Bottom line: The Rabbi has much to be held resposible and accountable for this fiasco as well.
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An excellent article! I got into an argument about this with someone who was utterly convinced that it was all about getting rid of the trees, and the rabbi was being "disingenuous" and trying to "bully" the airport.
I admit, I suspected it of being a test case (were all religious symbols welcome, or just one?), but now that I've read this, I realize that it was... just a menorah. I'm not sure why SeaTac eqivocated in the first place!
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Chanukah is not meant as a compensation prize for us Jews so that we don't feel bad during December. From my understanding Chanukah is a minor holiday--a nice holiday but not major one, like Yom Kippor for example. I'm a Jew every day of the week, not just during December and I don't require that a menorah be publically displayed in order for me to feel proud to be a Jew.
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The author of this article had first hand knowledge of what the press does... they sell news! (That story about the picture caption is hilarious!) But why would the author be annoyed that the local press ignored his specific message and printed their own? They're not paid to print his message - they're paid to get people's attention, and in today's news business, to entertain people!
The "War On Christmas" is news entertainment, unfortunately, and the people who have declared it will use anything as fuel for their fire. It sells and that's their job. People who are in a position to enflame that should be aware of their actions.
When I get a letter from a lawyer, whether overtly threatening or vaguely quoting law, I feel threatened. I wonder if I'll have to shell out a whole lot of money for lawyers to respond. People respond differently to perceived threats. If you look at the situation as a chess game, the airport won. I actually found their move amusing.
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To David from Washington: The Rabbi and his lawyer never said the Menorah is a secular symbol. They said that the Menorah has a universal message of freedom (in addition to it's religious significance.) The fact is, is that the tree is called an X-mas tree, and is in the house of mostly people of the Christian faith, for this holiday - so it has just as much of a religious connotation as the Menorah l'havdil. Which is why the Supreme Court ruled the way it did. This is a matter of elementary fairness: If you're gonna have the tree, you should have a Menorah.
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The question is not how could the Rabbi have asked for a Menorah, the question is how could the airport have said no? Furthermore, how could they have done such a silly thing as taking down the trees? This made no one happy!
Chabad believes in Public Menorahs. We are proud of who we are and we wish to educate others about the Message of Chanukah. The Rabbi had every right to ask for the Menorah. (Those who do not believe in public Menorahs have the right to their opinion as well.) The media, as the author pointed out, did not have the right to imply that the Rabbi forced the trees to go down. As the airport admitted themselves, that was their own doing - and it was a mistake as it hurt many people, Jews and non-Jews alike.
Let us all not forget the most important message of Chanukah - unity and light.
Happy Chanukah!
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I also wanted to say thanks for the great background on this issue. Chanukah is a lot more visible today than it was 20 years ago and it's interesting to know why.
That being said, sometimes I feel it is TOO visible. I feel like, as someone else said, it's not the Jewish American consolation prize! I mean, it has become that, but I think it's a shame. Why should American Jews need to be consoled when we have such a rich amazing heritage and tradition?
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The actual irony to this is that the only "news" outlet to refer to the "War on Christmas" is Chabad's beloved Fox News.
Please don't take this the wrong way. I love Chabad, attend minyan there regularly, and have made Aliyah, so I'm not exactly a liberal secularist. But at times people need to realize who their true friends are, and who their temporary friends are.
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This is a great article and I only wish the media would print this story instead of the falsehoods. One thing that bothers me is the association between Chanukah and Xmas. "Don't fight the trees; put up menorahs." But really, if there is anything wrong with trees, who says menorahs will correct that wrong? And if there is anything wrong with menorahs, why does the presence of trees justify the menorahs?
Actually, the two have nothing to do with each other, except that the later religion may have copied some features.
The Chanukah menorah is a frequent guest of courtrooms, but that should be a last resort.
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It is interesting to note that the original miracle of Chanukah took place many years before the idea of celebrating Chrismas occured.
The idea of celebrating Chanukah being a "compensation" for Jewish people during this season is therefore factually incorrect. Chanukah did happen first, and the Jewish people have been celebrating it from that year on.
(Not to make a comparison, but Chrismas began to be a celebrated Holiday about thirty years after his death- not his birth! If anything that would make it seem that the compensation idea is vice versa.)
The reason Jewish people make a "big deal" over publicizing Chanukah more than any other holiday, is because Chanukah is actually the only holiday that it is withing Jewish Rabbinical Law to "Publicize the Miracle". That is the reason why Menorahs are lit in windows and doorways- even within the home!
It definitely does not have to do with the season.
Wishing all readers a Happy Holiday.
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Rabbi Weiss, by all means ask for the Menorah, negotiate and assume a role of diplomacy. If it didn't work out this year, then negotiate again next year. That is the Jewish way, and particularly expected of a Rabbi.
Unfortunately where the mistake was made was "threatening legal action".
When a negotiation turns into a threat, the law of unintended consequences applies, and sometimes you get something you didn't ask for.
The catalyst that set off the negative chain of events was the threat, and for that, Rabbi Bogomilsky must bear full responsibility.
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My comment to the author is in regard to the "back of the bus" comparison. Please don't do this. Everytime a group of people go through something they reach for the black race as an example of mistreatment. Having to be isolated to certain areas of town and treated as less than human by being forced to sit at the back of the bus is in no comparison the same as not having the celebration of the lights publicized at an airport. I'm sure you meant no harm ,but please be more thoughtful of your comparisons...
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Ahhhh... the wisdom of "flies and honey" appears once again! As long as Chabad maintains its philosophy of welcome and warmth, their intentions and efforts can only bring positive results.
Here's to a menorah beside a tree ... and a Jew beside a Christian ... now THAT would be something to celebrate... all day... EVERY day ... EVERYWHERE!
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It seems to be that the writer is obfuscating the apparent fact that the Rabbi's lawyer threated or implied legal action in order to force the hand of SEATAC.
Had the lawyer never made that threat, this desecration of G-d's Name would never have happened.
The question then becomes: Was it worth it?
I think not....
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Due to constant lawsuits Christian symbols are slowly being removed from the public view. It makes Christians (me) sad.
Rabbi Bogomilsky seems to be planning another lawsuit if his demand is not met. The above article states that a national JEWISH organization said "Please understand, we have nothing against your menorah, but we're suing the city to make them take down the Christmas trees and Creches, so in all fairness, we need to fight the menorah to...."
American Christians support Israel. They speak well of the Jewish people. I have heard that as a group we are the biggest supporters of Israel in the world. How can you expect peace and goodwill between us when Jewish organizations are constantly using the courts to attack us?
I feel you are persecuting us. If you were the dominate religion in America I would fear you.
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The evening that the trees were put back into the airport, the on-air radio personalties of radio station KBHK in Sacramento at about 5:45pm didn't seem to understand why "those Jewish people" make an issue out of Xmas Trees in public places, after all, the XMAS TREE is not a "religious" icon. It is an icon of the winter season. Just goes to show how ignorant and insensitive most non-Jews really are.
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No matter what his intention, the Rabbi DID threaten to file a lawsuit. This doesn't seem to be the actions of a man of God interested in everyone getting along. Sorry, but once you bring the lawyers in, you lose my sympathy. Let's give the Rabbi more important work to do. He can put his fervor into REAL issues.
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I wish that the rabbi didn't take down the Menorah at Sea Tac. Why give in to the Christian majority when it comes to displaying our religion.
As a Jew, I am so sick and tired of Christmas being shoved down our throat without hardly a mention of Hanukkah in the suburbs of Illinois where my husband and I live. Believe me shame on Seattle. Boycott all products from Seattle like Star Bucks Coffee and Amazon.Com products.
Hanukah is a beautiful holiday; and, we should all be proud of it. I would love to see a Menorah in every place my husband and I go shopping in. Why are Jews so hateful towards their religon for the most part by not caring more about this horrible situation in Washington State.
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Never underestimate the stupidity of human beings. Robert Heimlen
I am politically corrected to the point I do my best not to be a part of the world
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This should not have turned into a problem.
Perhaps the way it was presented was not done with tact. If you go in expecting a fight then there will be one. It was only necessary to ask in a manner respectfully and to point out the freedoms of the country with graditude as an american. both were acceptable. We all may not agree with beliefs in religion, but are obligated to show respect toward one another. The way it ended caused anger from both sides, especially non-jews who are in the majority. I don't think that it was a wise move toward the Jewish community who are probably the minority. the backlash of animosity could be tremendous. The only way to win this fight is to work with the non jews in a civil manner saying let us work together your right as much as mine has been diminished by the behavior of the airport.
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I am a Christian. I fully support Rabbi's views in order to teach where we come from. Christian roots from the Torah and Christianity blends with Holy Bible and should celeberate Chanukah after realising how the miracle performed, why it is performed.
Thanks and happy Chanukah
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...this is not a Jewish country and we have no "right" to demand anybody put up a Menorah anywhere.
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I work in a county office, and of course the majority of the people working there are Xians. I set up my Menorrah on my desk, left the room when they were having their festivities, and didn't eat a single meal with them. I was tired of explaining that Kosher didn't mean reciting a blessing over whatever you want to eat. I believe that if the county or state can recognize the holidays of one religion and give days off with pay, they can recognize ours as well.
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To the rabbi who simply wanted to share the light of Chanukah and the beauty of his faith--I am sorry you were treated so badly.
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You say Jews seeing Christmas trees ask >> "How can I raise my child to feel secure in and proud of his Jewishness, when confronted by these displays in every store window, hotel lobby and village square? How can I avoid feeling resentful, left out, discriminated against?" <<
Being a Jew myself I give you the very simple answer: Move to Israel. You won't have any Christmas trees there. My point: dont expect other people to fit your needs and dont fulfill your needs at the expense of others. If you are disturbed by Christmas trees in a country where the majority are Christians, you are the one with the problem...
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For almost a week now, I've been pondering if this controversy is good or not and I realized the answer is in the title
"Fight or light."
Mishlei 3:17 Its ways are ways of pleasantness and all its pathways are peace. 18 It is a tree of life to those who grasp it, and its supporters are praiseworthy.
I think we should consider the first part of the Bedtime Shema where we forgive everyone.
Perhaps you should consider removing this message board as it's not promoting Shalom. And if it's not promoting Shalom, it's not Torah.
Is it following the 7 rules of Toeles? If this is a new word to you, I'd suggest reading "A Daily Companion" a book about the writtings of the Chofetz Chiam.
Isn't this board dust of Lashon Hara?
Have we forgotten the teachings in Vayashev?
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You are right in every aspect of your article except that the good Rabbi should never had threatened a lawsuit.This was totally counterproductive and although we can understand his frustration this brought a lot of antisemitism.Sometimes the means do not justify the ends.Especially the effects to religious jews.
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Well can we have some christmas trees in Israel....?
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I'm always amazed how somehow the rabbi is portrayed as a victim. It's not hard to beileve that getting permission to display ANYTHING at the airport might not be the most efficient process, yet you seem very quick to assign bad intentions to the airport staff ("stonewalling, "Bureaucratic double-speak") but complain when people do the same to the rabbi. Can you say "hypocrite"?
The fact the rabbi -- and you, and most people on this board -- saw nothing wrong with bringing a lawyer into this and threatening a lawsuit.... sheesh.
I would have gladly supported placing a menorah at Sea-Tac, but now I know when i walk by one in an airport, I'll just think of lawsuit-happy rabbis.
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After reading all the posts, please stop this blog. The Rabbi and lawyers should desist. All of this only adds to the hate and ignorance of the Christian world. Our beliefs and practices belong in our families. We do not need to display a menorah in public.Rather, we should display them in our homes at the window or outside. Bring Jews together. Leave the Christians to their ways and practices. They only understand that it is their right and it is always being done to them. I do not believe it is in our best interest to antagonize. It brings about some of the idiotic responses I have read so far. I do not want any Christian to feel sad that a jew is taking any religious signifigance from their lives at a cost of their likiking us (this is sarcasm) Please, we need to be more intelligent and more jewish. We don't brag and we don't compete for holidays.
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SeaTac isn't the only place where Chabad has been denied permission to display the menorah. Our local Chabad has been turned down two years in a row, and the news made the New York Times this weekend. No lawsuit has been threatened, but the City Council is proving itself ignorant and stupid -- it's had one year to study the issue, and it still can't understand the 1989 Supreme Court ruling that declared the menorah and the Christmas tree "secular holiday symbols". The law supports the menorah, why can't these yokels?
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I wish that R. Tauber would address the Dr. Laura radio show and straighten her out. She has millions of listeners and she, a Jew, has completely misrepresented the events in the airport. She has told her listeners that the rabbi wanted to get rid of Xmas and now, in protest, she has gotten her own Xmas tree and encourages everyone to send her ornaments! If this isn't a sign of Moshaich, I don't know....
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I believe in the separation of church/synagogue and state. Be that as it may, I don't need a public menorah (display) to make me or my children or grandchildren "feel" more Jewish or less Jewish. I am happy to light the menorrah in my own home. My grandchildren are happy to light the menorrah in their own home. We are not in any kind of competition with christmas. We are who we are in the privacy of our homes and synagogues.
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Public menorah displays add light and peace to this world, and I am, as most people are, wholeheartedly for them.
My question is: Would the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who instituted the - by now (almost) universally accepted - custom and blessing of public menorah lightings, have supported the route taken in SeaTac? Personally, I like the way Attorney Lewin is handling his (somewhat) similar challenge in Fort Collins.
The Torah's ways are pleasantness and peace, and those are - as the great and righteous Rebbe elaborated on numerous occasions - the most effective and fruitful paths to helping people "see the light".
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This is very clearly an issue of civil rights. I am fortunately a friend and co-davener of Rabbi Bogomilsky and talked to him about it. He was just reacting to the fact that the Port said, in effect, "We don't care about your rights."
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I've spent all day reading these responses, and not many of them are moving me.
What better way to say to that assimilated jew, "we need you and we are not forgetting. Don't forget about the miracles and the light of G-d." It could be as simple as seeing the menorah there amidst all this struggle.
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As far as I know, Dr. Laura claims that she WAS Jewish...
Whatever that means...
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As a jewish mom and wife I read this story with a little anger. Why can't Jews celebrate as Christians and Catholics? We have a right to celebrate Hanukkah as much as Christmas. Why not have a menorah at the airport? Is it such a big deal? How many Jews go through the airport during the holiday season? I know that if I was traveling now I would smile and be happy to see a menorah in a window or displayed. I am not against Christmas or any other holiday that is a honored tradition for many people. I just want Hanukkah to be a part of the special holiday season and to be a reminder that people of differnt faiths exist in this world!
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Nations are not built on diversity, nations are built on a distinct culture and a distinct people. Period. Just as Israel was. God is not diverse when it comes to the nations he creates. If you don't want to believe God then go read a history book....
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Regardless of the "spin" that Chabad-Lubavitch tries to put on the display of the menorah in public spaces (e.g., The State Capital, the SeaTac airport, etc.), it is not a universal symbol of hope -- it is, decidely, a Jewish symbol, and is tied to Jewish traditions and faith.
Cases dating back to the mid-1980's established that "christmas" trees are secular symbols of the season, thus able to be displayed on public lands and within public facilities. The same has not been established for the menorah, though it will probably be only a matter of time as advocacy for its display in public facilities pushes forward. At some point, a legal decision will be reached establishing the menorah as either a secular symbol or not -- and if it is, truely, a secular symbol, then what it represented within a Jewish context is diminished.
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I was thinking that if jews were the source of the largest profits for retailers during this season, there would be no problem about putting a menorah up anywhere.
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My own community of Bakersfield, California has just dealt with yet another religious public issue and I'm afraid we've lost.
In so doing our community has taken a giant step backwards. The Kern High School District has reverted to calling the winter and spring breaks "Christmas and Easter".
Work such as the public displays of the Menorah MUST continue to educate and cause respect of religious diversity.
As a nation we MUST honor all of our citizens of this great nation (which my own son is currently in Iraq representing).
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Let's see, now...Jews represent 3% of the population and they want what?
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Are we to be a "nation of diversity"? Karl Rove spoke at a La Raza meeting and said that America is "nation of diversity".
Well, what is a definition of a "nation"?
A nation (noun) (is) a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language,
See "United". Diversity nullifies the word "nation". A nation of diversity is an OXYMORON. It breaks the Indo-European mentality that Paramenides pointed out "The principle of non-contradiction".
Of course Christmas is under attack. Another oxymoron is "Judeo-Christianity". There is no such thing as "Judeo-Christianity.
Hannakuh is a minor festival not celebrated in Israel. It is only a club here to shove in the Christian face.
I hope that Christians refuse to put up the Menorah in Public Places!
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Be careful what you wish for. The Christmas "Holiday" tree has been totally secularized. Two huge articles (allegedly) about "Christmas" in the NY Times today are actually about Jews decorating their houses with Christmas-associated paraphanelia. A Christmas tree now means absolutely nothing in connection with Christmas. Hence the airport using them as a decoration. If Chabad insists on equating menorahs with Christmas trees it won't be long before the menorah is as meaningless as the trees. The only "Christian" decoration is a nativity scene. Would Chabad like SeaTac to put one up next to the menorah? My personal take on this is that religious symbols don't belong in airport lobbies, period.
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I have no problem with the public display of menorahs. G-d willing, there will be one next year in the Seattle Airport. Rabbi's Bogomilsky lawyer however uttered a no no when he warned of "possible legal action".
America is a christian country and we are guests. We are the finest guests this country has ever had and will ever have.
But we are still guests and we must act as such. Lawyers that repesent us should know what to say and what not to say. Threats such as possible lawsuits over placing a menorah where there is not one is totally inappropiate.
I don't believe Chabads success in placing menorahs where Jews were once dragged from their homes into death camps was accomplished with legal threats.
Happy Chanukah
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As a Christian I wouldn't mind a Menorah being displayed around Chanukah. But it seems to be displayed around Christmas even when Chanukah is much earlier in the month. Hence it seems to be trying to distract from or compete with the Christian festival. Naturally this is irritating to Christians. It implies that there is something disreputable about their favorite festival.
I suggest that the Menorah be set up during the eight days of Hanukkah only. The Christmas tree is, it is true, set up outside of Christmas Day ... of course there are Advent and Epiphany which does pretty much comprise the full season, as is in keeping with the fact that Christmas is the first, or possibly second most important Christian festival. And if the Menorah is to be displayed, could not a Creche also? Or if not could not Jews display only a dreidel?
Isn't there somethning Jews could display for a long time around Passover or Yom Kippur?
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In response to Diane Andrews,
It was first called "Christmas Break" because the Majority of Christians wanted a break to celebrate the Christmas Holiday.
Then Secularists/Communists changed the title to "Winter Break" in their commintmant to a Secularcracy and wished to Secularize and destroy the Christian culture.
Now, a brave and righteous School District against the Communist inspired political correctness, has returned the Break to its original Title.
And Diane you are complaining about what?
That America should be Semitized and Judiazed for your concerns?????
You don't see Christians in Israel demanding the secularizing of Jewish Holidays----Why should you here ask for such?
Diane, you are only a deconstructionist. It is "Christmas Break"!!!!
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I was just reading that Iraq's Christians, who are 3% of the population have to celebrate in their homes with the curtains drawn and can't even go to church. Jews in America are free to worship openly and with pride in their heritage. They are respected and protected. "Requesting", under threat of lawsuit, that a huge menorah be set up in the airport during the Christian holiday seems to be selfish - like a child crying for attention. Or the Fisherman's wife, who was never satisfied, no matter how good her life was.
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The consensus seems to be - and I concur - that, although the Menorah represents liberty, freedom, unity et al, nevertheless, even 'implying' a lawsuit to put up the Menorah is a questionable approach (even if SeaTac did err in refusing the original request).
In Hebrew, the acronym of Lights of Chanukah spells 'Noach' (Noah), and reversed, 'Chein' (charm). Indeed, the very first two letters of the word Chanukah spell 'Chein' (and reversed, 'Noach'). Perhaps this too, alludes to the universal value of the Lights of Chanukah for B'nai Noach (Children of Noah), and is the lesson to be taken from SeaTac, i.e., an increase in spreading the Godly light of the Seven Noahide Laws.
As such, I humbly request of Chabad.org that it give more prominent display to information, articles and links about the 7 Laws of Noah....
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Though non-secular displays in public areas are not allowed (and displays are visual, of course), auditory expression IS allowed -- that is, if it's Christian. But, you know, when one hears, in public places, carols such as 'Oh Holy Night'.... 'What Child is This'....'Joy to the World'....'Silent Night' (and many many more)...these carols are about holiness, not about a holiday. And I, for one, am glad that days considered holy are treated as such, regardless of one's religious beliefs. Treated as such in private, and in public.
I bet you that a group of children of all sorts of religious beliefs, taught by an open-minded and good person, would have no or little problems being surrounded by various religious displays and taking turns singing their own sacred songs. It's the bigger "children" who have the problems with it....often great problems.
Thank you, Yanki, for a good article. And 101 postings so far! That this subject matters to people, that's great.
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There's most certainly a war on Christianity in general and Christmas celebrations in particular. Jews are doing to the Christians, exactly what the Christians did to the Pagans which is to piggyback their holiday to diffuse their opponent's. Maybe the Christians will retaliate by coming up with a big shebang during the high holy days. Nevertheless, should be interesting to see how this human struggle pans out.
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I'd like to gently point out to my Jewish friends, that unlike the Menorah, the Christmas tree has never had spiritual significance in Chritianity. It originates, I believe from European Paganism, and as with many things that have become associated with our religion, has become a fixture in regard to the Christian celebration called "Christmas" . This is not the case for the menorah - it is directly related to the miracle that is celebrated at Channukah. True, some Christians have chosen to ascribe religious significance to the tree, however, the tree is not as essential to Christmas, as the Menorah is central to Channukkah. Of far more relevance is the display of manger scenes and other related images.
I found this article encouraging. Thanks you
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I have recently come through Sea Tac and I can only say that they've cut of their noses to spite their faces. The "winter" trees they've placed instead of Christmas trees and so as to avoid the menorah, as ugly and cheap looking - especialy when the artificial snow turns on an blows over them. I would also like to point out, in response to the last comment, that regardless of whether the tree has a religious significance, Hanukkah is the celebration of religious freedom for ALL! If I HAD to chose between either a tree or a menorah, I'd choose the menorah because of its universal significance. The tree is either symbolic of a particular religious principle or of paganism, but the menorah has a significance that relates to all.
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I agree with <i>anonymmous</i> of Spokane. My point was, (that I make despite being Christian myself) many Christians will make much the display of Christmas Trees, where in fact it has no relevance to what is supposed to be celebrated, however the Menorah is very relevant and every Jew at least knows what Channukkah is about.
The Channukkah is a reminder that in this world people who choose to worship will be opposed by those who do not know the One being worshipped, but that He will come to the aid of His children, and that through Him, we will prevail.
It is not to the courts that we should turn when our religious freedoms are under attack, but instead we should do as the original people did and trust the One we worship. He sustained that oil for nine days, and He will see you through in this affront to your faith.
I believe that publick displays of ANY religious symbol is absolutely acceptable and a reflection of the cultures and the communities that live in an area.
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Let's not miss the point. There are many Jewish articles out there. We have matzah on Passover, Megillah and noisemakers on Purim and we have the horn on Rosh Hashana. The one Jewish article we specifically promote in PUBLIC PLACES as a symbol for both Jew and non-Jew alike, is the Menorah - because it has a message for everyone . We put it up so that the whole world can recognize an idea - that light and goodness will prevail, just like the miracles of Chanukah. So the next time you see a menorah in a public place, instead of driving yourself mad to figure out how you will define and explain a menorah, how about taking it's lesson to heart - and spread the light - do another good deed!
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Going far beyond the original issue of public displays during December, the sheer level of hatred for Jews expressed by so many non-Jews is positively scary. Isn't the Christian holiday SUPPOSED to be all about, "Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men"? As for nativity displays in Israel, the town of Bethlehem is officially off-limits to all except Christians during the 24 hour period of Xmas - that includes Jews! And Israeli soldiers are on duty guarding the town of Bethlehem and safeguarding Christian pilgrims who have come there from all over the world. Maybe we Jews need unfortunate incidents like this to remember that even a wonderful place like America is still considered to be Golus (Exile).
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Any policy regarding religious holiday decorations and observances on public property need to be consistent with the facts that
1- We are One Nation under God
2- In God We Trust
3- Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or
4- prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
What this tells us is that public religious displays are fully consistent with public policy, but must be purchased, put up, and maintained by religious groups and not the government.
The Port of Seattle, a government agency, should never have put up the Christmas trees, but instead should've coordinated with a Christian group do so, while at the same time giving Chabad equal access. It's pathetic that they didn't realize this.
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I'm from Seattle, yet have been to numerous airports. When I fly with my kids, Devyn, 3, and Jayden, 21 months, my wife and I always make a point to stop and show the kids the Hanukkah decorations. My 3-year-old aptly appreciated it- "Daddy I like Jewish tree lights!" My 24-year-old wife Giselle is Italian, and she was shocked a country like America would block menorah lighting in our beloved city. Even my 3-year-old daughter appreciated the Chanukah lights! My 3rd child, Madison Joy, was born on Kof Hei Kitlev- first day of Chanukah. Aptly, I named her Joy. Maybe SeaTac should see THAT! I feel embarrassed that my non Jewish
wife questions me why SeaTac would do that and I could only say I don't know. Maybe the Rabbi shouldn't have bothered? Hopefully the next time I bring Devyn Maii, Jaydens, little Madison Joy, and our newborn Sean Preston through SeaTac, my kids can proudly point out their Chanukah Menorah. Hopefully!
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I hope this doesn't make people prejudiced against Seattle! It's an amazing city, and I'm proud to be a resident. Yes, there is rife with the airport- and as a wife of a traveling buisnessman, I do see lots of airports, and as a Jew, I do appreciate the Hannukkah lights. But I don't think Hanukkah was made for causngsuch a controversry- don't you think? I liked how "Dad of...." posted his daughter liked the Hanukkah lights...but if you can't get 'em, don't fight them. My daughters Elizabeth Christina and Madison Mary, enjoy the Christmas lights; one day in Seattle, I'll point her out the Hanukkah ones at SeaTac.
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Join forces with Hindus to get Diwali lights, Muslims to get a caligraphic greeting for Eid and Ramadan, etc... join forces with other marginalized religious groups to get their space and prove how easy, and exciting, it is welcome "all the other religious groups' requests". Personally, I am totally against the removal of all public religious expression (where would that end? a ban on kippot and hijab?) and agree real pluralism is the way to go.
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As a former reporter I know too well how the media can so easily slant stories to their view. As someone who used to celebrate Christmas before finding G-d's way in the Torah, I am amused how more and He uses incidents like SeaTac to mock man's traditions.
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the rabbi doesn't acknowledge "cause and effect". his threat of a lawsuit let to the removal of the trees. whether that was what he wanted or not, it is his actions that caused it. he needs to find more iimportant work to do. whining about trees is divisive, not unifying. and he won't let it die - bringing up the tree incident again!
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As a Christian I stand behind Israel in its fight against those who wish to destroy the jewish nation.
I do have less affection for the Jewish people today than I did a few years ago.
I realized with this Seattle airport conflict and learning that you had sued to remove Christian symbols from towns across America that given the chance the Jewish people will attack my faith and bring it down. You are not to be completely trusted and it is your own fault.
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As a Jew, I am sick and tired of Christians shoving their Easter and Christmas garbage in my face. Tolerance, I guess, onlhy applies to the Jews to accept the Christian religion not the other way around.
My husband and I will boycott all stores, if we can, that displays anything that has to do with any Christian holiday.
To all the Jews on this list that intermarry or who thinks Hanukkah is a less important holiday than Christmas stop being Jewish. Hanukkah is a beautiful holiday for those of us Jews that take pride in being Jewish.
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Standing or fighting for one's right under the Constitution, that we all cherish, is no threat to another. The point is that all of us have certain rights regardless of our numbers. I am certain that if Jews or Muslims or any other group were the majority & spent Federal/State funds to promote their religious beliefs you might understand our concerns & frustrations. It is not our intent to threaten another group or replace one injustice w/another. But to stay true to the concept of a separation between church & State. And that is not a concept that threatens the concept of G-d for those who believe. It is a concept thar allow us all to live together in peace. May G-d bless us all & see our way to finally respecting each other regardless of religious beliefs, race, or sexual preference.
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