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The Wicked Child



What gets me about Schwartz is that he ain't stupid. He has brains, but all he does with them is tickle his own brains. Schwartz' brain stands outside life peering in, like a surgeon examining a cadaver...

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Posted: Apr 6, 2008
The 5th child.
Nu, what do we say to the 5th child who is AWOL? How do we show the 5th he/she is one, like Jack Schwartz? What did the Rebbe say on child 5?

I am looking for to Pesach in large part because of your essay, Mr. Freeman
Posted By Peter of Minneapolis, Minneapolis, MN

Posted: Apr 6, 2008
Name
Interesting article, but there are people out there with the name Jack Schwartz who aren't wicked and may take offense.
Posted By esk

Posted: Apr 8, 2008
The 5th Child
Very, good! You've added a bit more to my understanding of the seder this year.
Shalom
Posted By David Avraham, Wilmington, NC

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
this article
Very interesting anthropological discussion of an ancient feast.

*Sorry but you asked for that.
Posted By Dov Ber Schwartz

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
The wicked child
Thank you, Rabbi Freeman! It never came to my mind, that the wicked child (or also the other three children, then) could be part of me. And after some thinking about it, I saw, it is true. From this year on I will listen to that in a different way, and hope, that the part of the wicked child in me will be less
wicked...
What I am unable to comprehend, is, that the "darkness itself will shine" That is greater than the ability of my imagination.... And nothing outside, not even us. We are not really existing??? That I can not grasp nor believe, nor wish. If that would be so, so why all this work and suffering and hope against all hope? Then I could commit suicide, it just would not matter.
No seeing my dead husband again be Olam haba, as all is dissolved in G-d, the Infinite Light. How could the Mashiach melt the ice of the arctic sea, when the ice does not exist? I am sorry for my simple mind.
I liked your article. As always. Happy Pessach!!
Posted By Michal , Passau, Germany

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
The Wicked Child
A wonderful article that makes me want to learn more about a man who could see and illuminate the essential connection between the wise, the wicked, the simple, and those unable to ask.
Thank you for giving me something new and so good to bring to my sedar table this year.
Posted By Matthew Clark, St. Paul, MN/USA

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
YUP
You did it! my name is Jacob (Ya'akov) Shwartz, and I am insulted!
Posted By Jack Shwartz

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
Re: YUP
If you were insulted, then you are definitely NOT the Jack Schwartz in the article. He would just find the it interesting and comment on the prose.

Besides, he spells his last name differently than yours.
Posted By Tzvi Freeman (author)

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
beautiful
beautiful article.
thank you.
Posted By rachael, melbourne, australia

Posted: Apr 9, 2008
Wicked Child
Actually, I feel that there are two interpretations of who is the wicked child. The first is a natural offshoot of the first generation being a wise guy about Judaism. A wise guy's kid is naturally going to turn wicked, and his son will be the one who asks "What is this?"

A second interpretation is that the wicked child is Rabbi Eliezer ben Abbuye, who represents the Drash in Pardes. Because he could not reconcile conflicting commandments, he became Drash, leading to heresy.
Posted By Randy H. Farb, Flint, MI

Posted: Apr 11, 2008
Shallow
Characterizing interest in intellect and philosophy as "evil" is an easy and faulty way to dismiss a much more complex approach to Judaism. Seriously, this story is offensive. I connect a great deal to Judaism, and I find that looking at it with a sociological and historical lense often enriches my understanding of it. Just as everyone is "wired" differently, individuals need to find their own path in interacting with a seder. For some it is unbridled emotion, and for others it is a lengthy process of dissecting the traditions and trying to connect the dots between what happens in our homes every year to the traditions of Jews throughout the centuries. Perhaps this year you should reframe how you see "Jack;" rather than and "evil" observer, he is a Jew trying to figure out his religion the only way he knows how.
Posted By Anonymous, USA

Posted: Apr 13, 2008
Re: Shallow
Hey, nothing wrong with philosophy and intellect. This is Chabad--which translates as "wisdom, understanding and knowiedge." The issue is with the cold, outside observer approach. If you want to understand something and really know it, experience it from within.

Actually, I think it was Fritz Perls who said, "Intellect is the concubine of intelligence." Well, he used a different word, but...
Posted By Paul Goodman

Posted: Apr 16, 2008
Wicked Child
The detached intellectual who always exists at the meta-level, observing, but never fully participating, is corrosive even of intellect and rationality. However, the intellectual who chooses intellect, thinking, and rationality is fully committed to reason and thought. This person is neither wicked nor wise. This person recognizes that everything is open to question and examination except questioning and examining. So, when at the seder table this person may sound like the wicked child, but with one difference: this person of intellect and self-examination, does not spare herself from the examination. She asks: why do I do sit at this table? and, why do we do what we do? The wicked child not only excludes himself from the seder as a committed participant but also excludes himself from himself as committed to thinking and questioning.
Posted By askthephilosopher, Thornhill, Canada

Posted: Aug 6, 2008
The Wicked Son
The wicked son comes to the Passover table and welcomes himself. The wicked son likes arrangements, especially arrangements that are disturbing. Wickedness gives balance to craftiness, immaturity, and simplicity, as the crafty son in all his complexity is likely to have the simple son left out or at least intimidated, so does wickedness put off the crafty son while he encourages immaturity and comforts simplicity.
Posted By Craig Hamilton, Sandwich, MA

Posted: Apr 7, 2009
Disturbing Interpretation
In the author's "conversation" with Jack, he tells him that there is a correct way to experience the Seder, and an incorrect way. I find this very disturbing. Many Jews do not feel spiritually connected to the characters in the passover story, and instead find their connection to Judaism to be more intellectual. Is this wicked? I hope not. To me, insisting that there is a correct way to relate to an organized religion is far more evil than merely viewing the Seder from an emotionally removed place.

Additionally, why does the wicked child feel disconnected from the Jewish people. Is he gay, and told that his sexual orientation is unacceptable? Does he wish to intermarry, and is forbidden to ensure his children will be raised Jewish?

I bring up these points, not to be facetious, but instead to argue that there are many legitimate reasons one could feel removed from the Jewish people that are far from wicked.
Posted By Ben

Posted: Apr 8, 2009
The wicked son
R. Freeman is a true master. Master writer, philosopher, scientist, and above all, master Jew.
I was cold as a fish going into this Pesach. Just was. By Divine Providence, I came across this article and suddenly I found myself crying.
It was R. Freeman´s book Bringing Heaven Down to Earth that not only changed my life but also got me close to Chabad.
Sorry to make this too personal.
I just felt compelled to share with you, R. Freeman, the immense gratitude someone in another part of the world and probably light-years away in upbringing is moved by your words and outlook. This is my first-ever comment on chabad.org although I´m a regular reader.
This article (BTW, Is Jack Schwartz Amalek?) and My Plastic Pharaoh (hope is still posted) are essential before-Pesach reading. Year after year.
May G-d bless you and your family.
Posted By Anonymous

 


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