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Married to Mr. Clean

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Dear Tzippora,

I am married to Mr. Clean. This wouldn't be such a problem if he was the one who took care of the cleaning, but he expects me to do it and do it to his standards. There's no way I can do it to his satisfaction. I am just not into these things like he is, and I don't even notice small things like dishes in the sink, shoes on the floor, or even cobwebs in the corner. What should I do?

Born a Slob

Dear Born a Slob,

You need to speak this issue over with your husband, and discuss the problem together. Luckily the skills you need to communicate well are already evident in your letter. Speaking calmly, concisely, and with a gentle touch of humor should help you to keep the conversation on track and focused on the issue at hand. The conversation should be aimed at finding a mutually-agreeable solution to your dilemma. It is not a question of whether it is preferable to be a Mr. Clean or a slob, but rather how the two of you can live together without allowing this basic difference to become a point of contention between you.

You raise two possible solutions in your letter already. Is it possible for all or part of the cleaning to be handled by someone else, whether that someone is your husband or a hired cleaner? Is it possible for your husband to accept that when you clean, you won't be cleaning to his standards? What are his cleaning priorities, i.e. would he prefer you to do the floors or the dishes etc?

I would recommend a compromise involving a cleaning rotation between the two of you. On your day, you would clean according to your standards, and on his days, he would clean according to his standards. The general cleanliness level would therefore be at a midpoint between the two of you.

I would like to focus now on the meta-issue. You humorously call him "Mr. Clean" while referring to yourself as "Born a slob." This places the two of you on complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Beware of this type of polarization. Instead, think of yourself as having a shared identity as a couple. Are you part of a couple for whom cleanliness is important? His need then becomes part of the couple's need.

This type of thinking will strengthen your relationship, and this is what marriage is truly about. When you push yourself to be a little more careful and observant about cleanliness, you will be actively solidifying your connection. You will no longer be a born slob, but rather a married woman with a healthy recognition that all marriages involve compromise and change.


By Tzippora Price
Tzippora Price is a marital & family therapist, who maintains a private practice in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel. She is also an acclaimed mental health journalist, who has made significant contributions towards increasing public awareness of mental health and mental illness. She is the author of two books, Mother In Progress (Targum) and Into the Whirlwind (Lions’ Gate Press).
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August 25, 2010
don't be selfish
I like to leave my things about. My boyfriend doesn't like clutter. I don't consider his POV more valid than mine. They are personal preferences. I will pick up eventually, when it suits me. If he has a problem with my clutter, he is welcome to clean it. That is his issue though. Not mine. Conversely, I am bothered by filth. That is my issue. So, I uncomplainingly clean his toothpaste spit off of the mirror every morning, and I keep the toilet and tub scrubbed.

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."- Oscar Wilde
callmehats
Philly, PA
November 18, 2008
regarding: "I need help teaching my wife to clean"
If you understand that your wife grew up in a household that was bereft of housekeeping abilities , perhaps you BOTH need some therapy. She, to explore her habits around this ( or lack there of) and you to find a better way to communicate your needs other than threatening your wife with divorce and calling her family "the most useless, disgusting slobs imaginable." Do you love this woman? Granted, this situation needs comprimise on both sides, but there must be more to your wife than this one issue, or you wouldn't have married her. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!
Observant woman of the 21st century
fcnj.com
November 8, 2008
I need help teaching my wife to clean.
I'm not exactly a neat-freak but I do have standards when it comes to a clean house. My wife on the other hand does not. At one point it got so bad that I threatened divorce. The problem is simply that I do about 90% of the cleaning while she sits around doing nothing. I believe that this is a learned behavior in her case- she grew up in a household that was never cleaned and her family are the most useless, disgusting slobs imaginable. She has gotten a little better about cleaning over the years but she's still very sloppy. Does anyone have any advice for helping her to appreciate cleanliness?
jstephens4
ypsilanti, mi/usa
May 8, 2008
regarding "a line in the letter"
In my opinion, expecting the wife to do ALL the housework EVEN if the man is making the livelihood shows a lack of respect & consideration. Some of the biggest Gedolim (Holy, learned Rabbis) have been known to pitch in as necessary. Cooking, cleaning, childcare, you name it. The High Priests in the Beis Hamikdash (Holy Temple) did the most menial labors out of respect & service. A true marraige is a partnership. Even if a women does not work outside the home or contribute to the income of the family, her duties (especially while raising children) are enormous & she is on call 24/7. In my humble opinion, a husband's salary figuratively represents the pay for BOTH their jobs. In fact, if a man's wife up & left (G-d Forbid) chances are he would not have enough money to go out & hire all the people he would need to fill her shoes.
THEREFORE- if a man can afford to hire help to alleviate some of his wife's tasks, great. If not, roll up those sleeves with a smile, husbands!
Observant woman of the 20th Century!
fcnj.com
May 7, 2008
Who is making the mess?
Dear Born a Slob

If you are the one making the mess, not putting away your things (your shoes etc.), then you should clean it up.
Anonymous
April 18, 2008
as far as the husband making a livelihood... even if he works full time outside the house, if there are children of any age and in any quantity (or even pets) he needs to share the responsibility for keeping their areas clean; after all, they didn't get there without his help &/or consent.
Anonymous
April 15, 2008
a line in the letter
I have one critique with the answer. The person asking the question clearly states her husband expects her to do it. I wonder why the answer assumes there can be a compromise on this issue that involves the husband doing the cleaning. I don't think the answer was very helpful in this regard. Many men, particularly in traditional families, still expect the wife to do the cleaning, and this is legitimate if the man keeps up his end of the agreement, which is to make a livelihood.
Anonymous
April 14, 2008
Married to Mr Clean
Your article is bordering on divorce in my estimation and reminds me of my long-term marriage that ended due to so much criticism, unhappiness and unreasonable demands with so much pressure - that is not to say, that there may be a basis, but should be done constructively with a solution in mind - like hiring some housekeeper to help the wife who cant cope with her everyday chores and organizational skills needing some boost - I also went to a counselor to get advice, bec he didn't have a problem - and sometimes the therapist told me I was right and when I relayed her comment back, my ex-husband just shrugged it off as if she was mistaken - Needless to say, this couldn't last - after 3 yrs, I was relieved to be rid of this negativism in my life - but it unfortunately took its toll on my children; and for the sake of one's children, marriage counseling should be sought out with the right intentions to repair a marriage in serious trouble and rekindle the love once shared
Anonymous
April 13, 2008
I think you need a therapist to intervene
When someone has a spouse that makes demands that seem to be impossible to be satisfied, it would seem to me that the couple would benefit by visits to a therapist. If he says we don't need a therapist, I'd have second thoughts about the marriage. As Dear Abby (our country's Jewish grandmother, advise columnist) has stated emphatically, if one person in the marriage thinks the couple needs to see a therapist, they need to see a therapist. He seems to be making demands that are impossible to be met, and I don't think it is the fault of the born"slob" this is about control, and quite frankly I doubt that the husband has any intention of "helping" around the house.
Rachel Garber
Phila , PA USA
April 13, 2008
Mr. Clean
Your article is excellent, your insight wise!
Looking forward to more of your writing and advice.
Anonymous
Tel Aviv, Israel
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Tzippora Price is a marital & family therapist, who maintains a private practice in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel. She is also an acclaimed mental health journalist, who has made significant contributions towards increasing public awareness of mental health and mental illness. She is the author of two books, “Mother In Progress” (Targum) and "Into the Whirlwind" (Lions’ Gate Press).
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